is it possible to carb a 06' 5.0 ?

jlangholzj · Sep 8, 2008

I'm just thinkin here. I know!!! why carb it it its already got EFI and blah blah blah.....

I've just always liked the carb setup, and I was thinking ti would be pretty damn sweet to have the 6spd. manual hooked up to a 302 or a 351C in a classic stang

SO: I was wonderin if it would be at all possible to carb out a new engine and keep the other computer goodies! kinda pointless i know, but different......

D.Hearne · Sep 8, 2008

There are no 06's with 5.0's I know of. There is a crate 5.0 mod motor, but it ain't cheap. The 3 valve 4.6 in my 06 Stang has to have a computer to run it, at least for the variable cam timing anyway. The SOHC and DOHC 4.6's and 5.4's are relatively easy to carb, all you need is a carb intake and a crank trigger for the ignition.

Mustang5L5 · Sep 8, 2008

'06's don't get 302's....they haven't since 1995

hsr · Sep 8, 2008

http://forums.stangnet.com/746061-65-fastback-4-6-dohc-turbo-progress-pics.html

CraigMBA · Sep 9, 2008

While you're at it, you could get wood spoke wheels too. Heck, you could just skip all the trouble and walk or take the bus.

lulz.

ARTTII · Sep 9, 2008

D.Hearne said:
The 3 valve 4.6 in my 06 Stang has to have a computer to run it, at least for the variable cam timing anyway.

Minor correction for you, the VCT is a hydrualically actuated system. No wires or computer. There are two sensors (one on each side) that report cam position, but that is all they do. The VCT operates independently.

D.Hearne · Sep 9, 2008

If there are sensors and they're operated, it's got to be done by a computer.

ARTTII · Sep 9, 2008

Just saying that the VCT is not run by a computer as you posted. However, it is monitored - same as all your basics such as your temp, oil pressure, etc. Obviously, none of those need a computer but they are all connected to the computer now-a-days.

D.Hearne · Sep 9, 2008

If the computer doesn't operated the cam timing, then what does?

ron67fb · Sep 9, 2008

If the computer doesn't operated the cam timing, then what does?

Magic.

Anyone remember those variable cam timing gears for V8s that came out a few decades ago? Seemed like a good idea but why didn't they take off?

D.Hearne · Sep 9, 2008

ron67fb said:
Magic.

Anyone remember those variable cam timing gears for V8s that came out a few decades ago? Seemed like a good idea but why didn't they take off?

You mean the ones Ford equiped all their V8's with in the late 60's to late 70's? I've got an unmolested one on a 71 351 Cleveland in my shop collecting dust.

ARTTII · Sep 9, 2008

Well I owe you an appology D.Hearne!

I pulled out my 2005 Mustang workshop manual (I got the official Ford one) and on page 303-14-1 I found out the Mustang VCT does include an electronic solenoid [which would be computer controlled].

The basics of the operation is the VCT uses oil pressure (to over simplify - vanes on a wheel mounted in the front of each cam) to phase the cam. Previous generations of VCT used a mechanical method of actuation; Mustang didn't get VCT until the 3v in 2005 so it has always been electronic. The 3v Mustang for s197 uses an electronic (smart) solenoid that controls wether oil pressure goes toe the VCT or not.

Sorry to add confusion to the thread, \back to the original poster

ron67fb · Sep 9, 2008

D.Hearne said:
You mean the ones Ford equiped all their V8's with in the late 60's to late 70's? I've got an unmolested one on a 71 351 Cleveland in my shop collecting dust.

I'm not talking about plastic timing chains that stretch, real variable ones! Are you telling me they were factory? I've seen them in old magazine ads for small block Fords and Chevys.

D.Hearne · Sep 10, 2008

No, I was talking about the "silent drive" timing sets. These had steel chains, but with nylon teeth on the aluminum cam gear. The teeth would strip off the gear and allow the chain to jump teeth, hence the "variable timing" The Clevland I have still has all the teeth on the gear, this one had the chain stretch and jump time. It's one in a million.

D.Hearne · Sep 10, 2008

ARTTII said:
Well I owe you an appology D.Hearne!

I pulled out my 2005 Mustang workshop manual (I got the official Ford one) and on page 303-14-1 I found out the Mustang VCT does include an electronic solenoid [which would be computer controlled].

The basics of the operation is the VCT uses oil pressure (to over simplify - vanes on a wheel mounted in the front of each cam) to phase the cam. Previous generations of VCT used a mechanical method of actuation; Mustang didn't get VCT until the 3v in 2005 so it has always been electronic. The 3v Mustang for s197 uses an electronic (smart) solenoid that controls wether oil pressure goes toe the VCT or not.

Sorry to add confusion to the thread, \back to the original poster

None needed. The Mopar Hemi's (the current breed) uses oil pressure controlled by solenoids by the computer also to regulate the valve events, but it's done thru the lifters.

ron67fb · Sep 10, 2008

D.Hearne said:
No, I was talking about the "silent drive" timing sets. These had steel chains, but with nylon teeth on the aluminum cam gear. The teeth would strip off the gear and allow the chain to jump teeth, hence the "variable timing" The Clevland I have still has all the teeth on the gear, this one had the chain stretch and jump time. It's one in a million.

I bought a 351c and stored it in the garage upright, facing up. The chain was so sagged you couldn't turn the engine unless it was horizontal. Imagine driving up a steep hill with that - snap!

I'll have to find pics of that variable timing gear, having a hard time on Google. I think I have an old HOTROD with an ad in it for one.

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