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is there a oil pump-to-block gasket?

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rockin_rick

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I went to my local ford dealer and asked for a oil pump to block gasket (among other things) and I was told that it didn't show one, therfore it didn't use a gasket. Is this correct?

Rick
 
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No, there is a gasket for that. Imagine mounting metal to metal and having pressurized oil pushed through it, of course it needs a gasket, and without you could lose oil pressure.
 
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yah as weird as it seems because you wouldnt think u would need a gasket to keep oil from oil but yes there is one go buy it for 1.00 at autozone
 

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I have never run one. Never been a problem. You're talking about two machined flat surfaces.

Bottom line, it is not required but you should do whatever makes you sleep better at night.
 
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I guess heads, blocks and intakes are machined surfaces too.
 

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chebby dosnt use em either and also if the 5.0 with manifolds in the late 80's and early 90's didnt use exhaust manifold gaskets
 

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I had an old International Loadstar 1600 with a 345cui, I changed the oil filter bracket and it didn't take a gasket either. I was surprised. It doesn't leak though.

I did spray both sides with gasket sealant though, to kind of seal up imperfections between the surfaces. The bracket I used was a used one.
 

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SmockDoiley said:
I guess heads, blocks and intakes are machined surfaces too.
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Ok wise ass.
 

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You probubly wont be able to get the gasket by its self. May have to spend a few bucks and get an oil pan gasket set.
 

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cardudeusa said:
You probubly wont be able to get the gasket by its self. May have to spend a few bucks and get an oil pan gasket set.
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I have only seen them come in oil pan sets and with a new oil pump.
 

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my 93 didnt have one, when I took it apart.
 

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since the oil pump to block is contained inside the oil pan, you don't need to worry about it leaking because it is contained.
 
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My 93 GT did have one when I took it apart, and the new oil pump had one with it. Bought the car new, so it did come with one from the factory.
 

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its in the pan but not submerged in oil so you wouldnt want the pump to block connection to be unsealed imo.
 

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o yeah a new pump comes with 2 gaskets pickup to pump and pump to block. just bought one the other day. my car looks stock internally but has a double roller timing chain. was that stock also?
 

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AXIStang said:
o yeah a new pump comes with 2 gaskets pickup to pump and pump to block. just bought one the other day. my car looks stock internally but has a double roller timing chain. was that stock also?
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yes, the double roller is stock.
 

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My car came without one from the factory. As I said before and I was being non sarcastic, if you can't sleep at night then use the gasket otherwise it is completely not needed.
 

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its gettin hot in here guys... I would just spend the buck and do the gasket, no biggie...
 
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Thanks for the replys, guys. I will do the gasket (and I will sleep better at night). I just don't trust the parts counter guys, especially with something as critical as my oiling system.

Rick
 
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I just got my M-6600-M50 production oil pump and it only came with 1 gasket. It looks the same as the gasket I got from the dealer for the pickup. It will fit the 3 holes fine, but it doesn't cover the entire mating surface.

After some thought, I think that I will NOT run a gasket. I think that the pump will be more stable against the block without the gasket. This may be a non-issue, though. Of course potential leaking is not a concern.

Thats my 2 cents. Thanks to everyone for their input.

Rick
 
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