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Is there such a thing as a "Factory Freak"?

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25thmustang

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I have gone from 3rd to 2nd, but nothing like that happened, car was fine!

For the debate to me it seems there are always too many variables. I see some guys who get cars and never run good times, claim they never got a freak car. Then I see other guys, and every car they get runs amazing times for the mods, they surely dont get that lucky.

I look at this, my car runs what it runs with the mods I listed before, my dads car went 12.11 @ 110.5 with a stock bottem end, stock cam, GT-40Ps (unported), Cobra intake, and suspension mods. Im sure lots of people would call that a freak car, but hey, how did our family get two of them???
 
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2002BLGT

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5spd GT said:
I believe that one...the weight had a bunch to do with it...no factory freak there...I have yet to see an obvious factory freak

My race weight on my '93 is just under 3400lbs and that car you ran weighed 2950...that is almost a 500lb difference...which in essence is half a second ...but then again race weights vary and so does the driver weight (I'm 220lb)...

Just some dang good drivers, low weight, matched with good 60fts...= Factory Freak

60hp difference from factory does not make sense at all
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yea 2950 was pretty light , I am guessing my new 93 is about 3150-3250 area...my supercharged 2002 probably weighs 3350 or so ....weighed 3264 before the long tube headers and vortech ...so I am adding 100 lbs , sound about right ???
 

tmoss

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25thmustang said:
my dads car went 12.11 @ 110.5 with a stock bottem end, stock cam, GT-40Ps (unported), Cobra intake, and suspension mods.
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What mods were done to the car's suspension?
 

TrickStang37

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yeah my 93 weighs in at 3150 w/o me and thats with aluminum heads, removed ac, aluminum driveshaft, removed swaybar, removed powersteering, removed dogbone, removed fog light brackets, fiberglass hood and thats with less than 1/4 of a tank.
 

5spd GT

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2002BLGT said:
yea 2950 was pretty light , I am guessing my new 93 is about 3150-3250 area...my supercharged 2002 probably weighs 3350 or so ....weighed 3264 before the long tube headers and vortech ...so I am adding 100 lbs , sound about right ???
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Full weight my car (when it was an auto) was over 3200lbs...now my car weighs right around 3150...I have aluminum heads and nothing deleted...w/ aluminum driveshaft and aluminum radiator...

Yeah the 99+ Gt's aren't heavy like people think
 

25thmustang

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tmoss said:
What mods were done to the car's suspension?
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Adjustable LCAs, and UCAs, Strange Struts, Lakewood shocks, Eibach front springs, stock rears, air bag in the right rear, and removed sway bar! Cars best 60' is a 1.61 and has done it a few times, but averages in the 1.63-1.65 area whether 5000 or off the limiter!
 

rsw007

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25thmustang said:
Adjustable LCAs, and UCAs, Strange Struts, Lakewood shocks, Eibach front springs, stock rears, air bag in the right rear, and removed sway bar! Cars best 60' is a 1.61 and has done it a few times, but averages in the 1.63-1.65 area whether 5000 or off the limiter!
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ive got the steeda hardcore uppers and lowers and like them alot. i dont think my 1.75 60ft is bad leaving at 1400rpm through the aod.
 

willys1

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rsw007 said:
ive got the steeda hardcore uppers and lowers and like them alot. i dont think my 1.75 60ft is bad leaving at 1400rpm through the aod.
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What kind & size back tires?
 

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american racer g60's dot dirt track tires "26.5 x 9" about same as 245/60
 

25thmustang

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Definately not, I couldnt get my AOD to launch anything better than a family car so I gave up and went stick...

I am amazed at how your car runs and launches. Some days I can barely get 1.75s launching on Slicks (never on the ET Streets) with this suspension. Im sure your car makes more power than mine did when I had the AOD (mine would trap 97-99) and your converter is much better. Time for a few more power mods and 12s!

Damn Factory Freaks make us non Factory Freak guys look bad!!!
 

rsw007

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25thmustang said:
Definately not, I couldnt get my AOD to launch anything better than a family car so I gave up and went stick...

I am amazed at how your car runs and launches. Some days I can barely get 1.75s launching on Slicks (never on the ET Streets) with this suspension. Im sure your car makes more power than mine did when I had the AOD (mine would trap 97-99) and your converter is much better. Time for a few more power mods and 12s!

Damn Factory Freaks make us non Factory Freak guys look bad!!!
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what else can i do? youve seen my mods. i think i can get a 13.2 now just got to get to the track
 

25thmustang

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As bad as it sounds, youll probably have to move on to changing or porting the intake. I was told this doesnt help much, and have no real proof that it does, but I feel it helped my car out, even before I added the valves. I hit a 13.05 @ 103.4 with the heads being all stock and original, stock MAF, and the major mod being the Cobra intake. I think it was worth a tenth or two, and will probably help your mph!
 

rsw007

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25thmustang said:
As bad as it sounds, youll probably have to move on to changing or porting the intake. I was told this doesnt help much, and have no real proof that it does, but I feel it helped my car out, even before I added the valves. I hit a 13.05 @ 103.4 with the heads being all stock and original, stock MAF, and the major mod being the Cobra intake. I think it was worth a tenth or two, and will probably help your mph!
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thought about gouing with a tmoss ported lower, but i want to know that ive done the best i can with what ford origanally put together. before i pull any thing apart and swap to ported or upgraded parts.
 

25thmustang

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I wish I could do the same, but oh well!
 

willys1

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25thmustang said:
As bad as it sounds, youll probably have to move on to changing or porting the intake. I was told this doesnt help much, and have no real proof that it does, but I feel it helped my car out, even before I added the valves. I hit a 13.05 @ 103.4 with the heads being all stock and original, stock MAF, and the major mod being the Cobra intake. I think it was worth a tenth or two, and will probably help your mph!
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I got 1 from t-moss and it gave me a tenth.But now that Ive learned how to launch,it might be good for 2 I think.I ran a 14,1 tonight with a 1.9 60ft.
 
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