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is this a redneck way to get SOME boost?

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red89yj

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my car was on the lift today getting an oil change and while i was looking around i noticed that where 2 cats were replaced with straight pipe, i have this skinny little tube (probably from the air pump for the exhaust) still wide open. the light bulb went off and im looking for some feedback before I waste time doing it-

if I routed more tubing in there from the original tube up to my intake, will the air pump crank out enough volume to make a difference in HP?

If I did it, would there be crap flowing into the intake that shouldnt be?

Should i just clamp the tube and forget about it?

sorry if this is a worthless thread but i just have to ask-


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I would abandon this idea. It has been discussed before and concluded to not pump anywhere near enough air for a significant improvement in air flow. I would not force any air into the intake that has not gone through the air filter or at least the mass air meter.
 
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excellent call- just the reasoning i was looking for
 

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I completely agree. One more thing to remember - you have manifold vacuum pulling air into the plenum. So anything you do has to be above and beyond the 'ambient' air flow magnitude. A smog pump puts out ok air flow in stagnant air but otherwise is going to be pretty useless.
 

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ok i read this wrong apparently i thought you wanted to run a hose from your h pipe to your intake
 

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no where enough flow.....a turbo or a supercharger really pushes ALOT of air.

People have used those smog pumps on briggs+strattons to make supercharged gokarts!
 

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i have seen leafblowers hooked up to our cars try that haha
 
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trav_19 said:
i have seen leafblowers hooked up to our cars try that haha
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i saw that on powerblock tv a year or so ago. haha

SO, now that we all know this is a dumb idea and won't work for Sh!+, should i clamp it shut or just leave it alone?
 

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clamp it. I like that sig, by the way, that 03 Bumper would look incredible on your car
 
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heh need a compressor of some sort
 

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Actually, don't clamp it. It'll be fine just pumping air out into the atmosphere, but if you clamp it off it'll still be trying to pump air. but getting nowhere. (Robbing horsepower)
 

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igotyofire said:
heh need a compressor of some sort
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I've wondered about this.

If you could put a decent sized tank in the rear and a compressor like the ones used for air lockers I think it could be done.

Kinda like a NOS system but with compressed forced air like a turbo or supercharger provides.
 

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hmmm you would need to use in-line dryers to keep any water out of it....and what would you use like a bagged system for this?? the ones i see dont fill extremely fast so you wouldn't get a huge rush of air for very long ....
 
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When I had my air pump off earlier this year I think I remember seeing a sticker on it that said 28lbs/hr. I got to thinking and if it would take an hour to pump a tire up to 28lbs then it ain't exactly pushing enough air to be used as a redneck supercharger.
 

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remove it as i did and make a few bucks off it...i sold my pump & lines on e-bay for about $20 plus shipping....heres a link on removal http://www.allfordmustangs.com//techarticles/Smog2.pdf
 

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diablostang said:
Actually, don't clamp it. It'll be fine just pumping air out into the atmosphere, but if you clamp it off it'll still be trying to pump air. but getting nowhere. (Robbing horsepower)
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I was about to say... dont clamp it...
 

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wait...what are we not clamping??? the small pipe on the h pipe?!?
 

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I dont know if anyone said this, but the smog pump shoots out air in bursts. I dont think a MAF would react to well to that. lol
 

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diablostang said:
Actually, don't clamp it. It'll be fine just pumping air out into the atmosphere, but if you clamp it off it'll still be trying to pump air. but getting nowhere. (Robbing horsepower)
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Actually, one would gain horsepower.

i.e. when you block the intake or output duct to a fan, the amount of current the fan consumes goes to almost zero. If it doesn't move air from A to B, there is very little resistance, thus no power draw.
Scott
 
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