Is this even logical??

jomull55 · Feb 27, 2008

sooo... i got my exhaust done last summer by the local exhaust shop here in mansfield, oh (custom exhaust) and when they did it they removed my... egr tube?? which comes out of the air compressor on the left side of the motor? if im correct... but correct me if im wrong... the problem is this hole where that tube was seems to be as loud if not louder than my exhaust pushing out air when i get off the throttle. i would like to eliminate this. would it be logical to buy a shorter belt and route around the pulley that is running this "air compressor"??? lol sorry guys im a noob. but thanks for any help in advance...

Guero · Feb 27, 2008

Yes its possible. But I believe if I remember correctly by removing your EGR you might run into some pinging problems unless you tune for it.

poboys 94 · Feb 27, 2008

jomull55 said:
sooo... i got my exhaust done last summer by the local exhaust shop here in mansfield, oh (custom exhaust) and when they did it they removed my... egr tube?? which comes out of the air compressor on the left side of the motor? if im correct... but correct me if im wrong... the problem is this hole where that tube was seems to be as loud if not louder than my exhaust pushing out air when i get off the throttle. i would like to eliminate this. would it be logical to buy a shorter belt and route around the pulley that is running this "air compressor"??? lol sorry guys im a noob. but thanks for any help in advance...

Sounds like they messed with the air tube, underneath? the egr tube connects from the header to the valve itself, most shops have air tube repair kits that can be welded in, if that is the case. If emissions arent a concern then you could eliminate the smog (air) pump or run a shorter belt.

ronstang94 · Feb 28, 2008

jomull55 said:
sooo... i got my exhaust done last summer by the local exhaust shop here in mansfield, oh (custom exhaust) and when they did it they removed my... egr tube?? which comes out of the air compressor on the left side of the motor? if im correct... but correct me if im wrong... the problem is this hole where that tube was seems to be as loud if not louder than my exhaust pushing out air when i get off the throttle. i would like to eliminate this. would it be logical to buy a shorter belt and route around the pulley that is running this "air compressor"??? lol sorry guys im a noob. but thanks for any help in advance...

hopefully you are wrong and only confused about what they did , or they really screwed up your emissions equipment.

as already said, the egr tube is a metal tube that gos from your exhaust header up to your EGR valve that mounts on your upper intake manifold.

the smog pump (air compressor) is below the alternator on the passenger side of the engine. There should be a rubber hose connected to the back of it. this rubber hose should have a couple valves on it and y off heading towards the back of the engine.

If you need to pass emissions where you live these things need to be properly repaired. If you dont need to pass emissions take all of the unecesary equipment off and cap off any open holes.

jomull55 · Feb 28, 2008

okay... from the sounds of it it is not my egr. it is the smog pump which is below the alternator. and there was a metal tube that was routed out of the front of it and into the exhaust after the headers. so now there is just a hole there and it just sits there and blows out air....

BlackVert · Feb 28, 2008

yep, that is the air pump. it's job is to pump outside air to the cats so the cats can do their job better.

i'd go back to the shop (with a baseball bat!) and ask why they didn't put that back on.

Black95GTS · Feb 28, 2008

Thats a piss poor job of exhaust work. You shelled out loot for a custom exhaust and they left a hole in it?

Damn.

Adam

jomull55 · Feb 28, 2008

how would it affect the performance of my car if i just routed around that pulley with a shorter belt??

Zero_chance · Feb 28, 2008

Youll still have a large hole making noise if you bypass the smog pump.

jomull55 · Feb 28, 2008

hmm... what do you propose i do?

Zero_chance · Feb 28, 2008

At this point if you had work done by a shop Id go back and ask them what they did with the thermactor tube. They obviously took it off. If theyre a custom shop they should be able to fabricate something if they dont have the original. Either way they have to remedy the situation since they removed it in the first place.

jomull55 · Feb 28, 2008

yeah but im saying what if they are jerks and wont help me since it has been so long

poboys 94 · Feb 28, 2008

jomull55 said:
yeah but im saying what if they are jerks and wont help me since it has been so long

At the shops I used to work for we would at a minimum warranty stuff for at least a year, I would try to get them to fix what they messed up, as long as you have your receipt, as a consumer you have a right to have it fixed,correctly, if I were running that exhaust shop(after I replaced the shmuck predessor) I would fix you up instead of risk further bad reputation in the neighborhood.

Zero_chance · Feb 28, 2008

Couple questions... were you aware of the noise after they did the work... or only down the road? Because it wouldnt be the first time a thermactor tube rotted out and fell off. As far as bringing it back, I skimmed through your first message and wasnt aware of the time that had passed. Youre not likely to get much help from them other than possibly them customizing something to work for you. Ive seen people use a good length of heat resistant tubing and just mate it between the thermactor and the exhaust. If you want to replace it with the stock metal tubing, you could try Mustang Parts Specialties www.mpssalvage.com

Zero_chance · Feb 28, 2008

Poboy, I agree with you that most things would be warrantied for a year, but this is seeming less likely a case for that. Maybe if the noise was noticed a couple weeks after and then brought back. But last summer? Seems a bit lengthy and theyll likely ask why it wasnt returned sooner. And more so, unless they did something specific to the thermactor tube other than reconnect it to the new setup theyre likely not to get involved. And if you did notice the noise after they did the work why did you wait till the next winter?? Theyre likely to only cover any problems with whatever they installed, not related components. It seems this would have been something that should have been picked up on right away.

poboys 94 · Feb 28, 2008

Zero_chance said:
Poboy, I agree with you that most things would be warrantied for a year, but this is seeming less likely a case for that. Maybe if the noise was noticed a couple weeks after and then brought back. But last summer? Seems a bit lengthy and theyll likely ask why it wasnt returned sooner. And more so, unless they did something specific to the thermactor tube other than reconnect it to the new setup theyre likely not to get involved. And if you did notice the noise after they did the work why did you wait till the next winter?? Theyre likely to only cover any problems with whatever they installed, not related components. It seems this would have been something that should have been picked up on right away.

If they custom made an H pipe or something like that and they fabbed up a tube to connect to the H pipe and it recently broke/rotted away then its on them I say.But I cant see this guy driving around for a year with an obvious problem and just now wanting to complain about it. Take the car back to the shop, with your receipt, be cool about it and see what they do for you, like I said if it's 10 -15 minutes to weld a piece of air tubing in to make the guy happy I would personally do it, it is just good biz, especially if you got a waiting room full of people/customers. On the other hand if they want to be Di#k$ about it they seem to be the last ones to have worked on the Emissions systems on the car and there is a hefty fine for" removing the EGR tube" as they told him. Times and buisness are hard enough for most shops, I would try to work with this customer the best way possible.

Zero_chance · Feb 28, 2008

Yeah I think we need to know a little bit more about what exactly they did. Either way it cant hurt to bring it back. They might hook you up just for being a loyal customer.

xkuntrycowboyx · Feb 28, 2008

If you're not going to have them fix it and going to delete the pump... check out these two threads.

smog delete threads
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=713812&highlight=smog+delete+short+belt+re-route

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=733332&highlight=smog+delete+short+belt+re-route

they might help... if you have anymore questions do an advanced search of all 5.0 forums. hope it helps

jomull55 · Feb 28, 2008

okay.. so i just thought about it and im prety sure they gave me the tube back when they gave me my stock tubing back. i didn't think anything of it and just figured they knew what they were doing. but as time went on the noise just kept progresively bugging me more. but im almost positive i still have the tube and it did not rot out it was clearly removed. i had them route my exhaust out in front of my tires because thats what i wanted. and im almost positive this is the smog pump tube... because as it has been described to me it is a metal tube that comes out of the front of the air compressor (below the alternator) and routes into the exhaust line after the headers

gcomfx.com · Feb 29, 2008

It probably wouldn't cost but $10 to have another muffler shop weld the tube on and hook it back up for you.

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