The car was tuned by The Turbo People of NY, (Chase and Job Spetters, Jr - to be more precise). But, in all fairness, the car was tuned with an Air/fuel of 11.0:1 with the car's safety/longevity in mind. The car is quite capable of more power, and faster times, but I needed to break in the engine, turbo, and everything else first. Almost every single part was brand new, and needed the break-in time. I didn't want to take any chances, especially since the first real test was the drive home from NY to NC. Eventually the car will get an Accufab upper plenum and 75mm TB (which it sorely needs) and will be retuned to 11.9:1 on the Air/fuel. I expect to see the car making around 460 rwhp (or more) at 13psi.DBMSTNG said:i've had my JBA's for over a year and a half and have not had a problem with them. droptop2001gt is the first person that i've heard of that didn't get replacements from the factory.
droptop2001gt, who tuned your car? you should be making alot more than 397rwhp with your setup.
well that kind of scares me a little. I would buy long tubes or the midllengths but like i said the shorties are legal. And i already shelled out like 300 bucks for a midpipe last year. I dont want to throw it away. NOW you have me thinking.droptop2001GT said:My JBA headers cracked at the flange, and JBA wouldn't stand behind them. Besides, the stock log manifolds are almost as good. And for $460+, that is just not acceptable. If you are going to spend that kind of money, you really should buy some long tubes or the Bassani Mid-length headers. I know that having to drop the coin for a mid pipe at the same time may keep you from doing it right now. But you are MUCH better off waiting, and doing it right, than to buy/install JBA shorty headers. Go get yourself the BBK long tubes, or the Bassani Mid lengths and save yourself a lot of trouble!
Save up until you can do the more logical of the two choices. As much of a pain as header installs are on 4.6L cars, you will only want to do it once. If you dont do it yourself, it will be quite expensive to have it done right. Save up the cash until you can do something like a set of BBK Longtubes, and a BBK short Catted H/X-pipe to match. When you do get them, you can sell your other midpipe to help offset the cost.03redfiregt said:well that kind of scares me a little. I would buy long tubes or the midllengths but like i said the shorties are legal. And i already shelled out like 300 bucks for a midpipe last year. I dont want to throw it away. NOW you have me thinking.
Long tubes are for "off-road purposes only" in most states. Some states have visual inspections in addition to smog tests, and if they see LTs you fail. Most states just check for cats, and thats how most people can put LTs on their cars.droptop2001GT said:Why can you not get the car inspected with long tubes? I can't see how a state can make them illegal. You do have the right to mmodify your car using quality aftermarket parts. (see this) The BBK should be 50 state smog legal. As long as you get a catalytic midpipe, there should not be a problem?
Perhaps It's just a variation in the laws from state to state, but BBK's website (like many others) state that only non-catalytic midpipes are for "off road use" only. A long tube setup with a catalytic midpipe is completely legal in ALL 50 states. Only the non-catalytic midpipes are illegal in most states. Perhaps you should check with the local DMV or a local inspection station to make absolutely certain. It doesn't make any sense that you can't put on long tubes with a catted H-pipe. If the law really does forbid you to add long tubes in Mass, you need to be writing John Kerry a letter.NasaGT said:Long tubes are for "off-road purposes only" in most states. Some states have visual inspections in addition to smog tests, and if they see LTs you fail. Most states just check for cats, and thats how most people can put LTs on their cars.
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