WillDuhhBeast said:So how simple is it to take the 6psi kit to 9psi when you're ready? What kinda cost or changes would you have to make?
Joe_Dirt said:really 2000BLKGT?
according to superchargers4less the vortech S-trim comes with the injectors, computer chip, fuel pump, bypass valve, belts, brackets... everything that you need.
and at $3198.00 is a bit cheaper then KB,so the KB comes with a better intake ,is it worth another 1000?
ive yet to decide on which im going to do myself but considering cost VS my goal of 320-350Rwhp i still researchin all possibilites.
-to the original poster Congrats on your purchase.to everyone else thanks for the extra bits of S/C knowledge youve shared.
-Jason
tomustang said:Where do you see Z4's? I only see them in phila.
cronin49 said:Just picked up the Kenne Bell 1.7 L supercharger and am very excited! I wanted to stick to a low boost, 6psi, to ensure engine longevity. I will finally be able to put down all those a-holes in the 350Z's, Z4's, etc. that are constantly screwing with me because my 'vert really stands out in the crowd. Maybe I can even give the C5's a run for the money, what do you think? A day doesn't go by that I don't get at least one complement from someone or I come out of a store and someome is checking out my car. See my sig. Right now my best time at the track is 13.79. What can I expect now with the supercharger? Of course I won't be able to run at the track anymore because I don't want to screw up the looks of my car by putting in a roll bar. I figure I will be putting out 370- 380 hp at the fly, at least. Also, what should I pay for the install? Thanks for your input.
Again with the name calling. Look 2000BLKGT, if you can’t make a valid point there’s no need to get your panties in a bunch and call me names. Sit back and read before you start flapping and you’ll learn all you need to know. Yes, the KB does come with a new lower intake manifold. But what you also forget to mention is that it comes with one because it has to in order to mount the twin screw to the top of the engine, not because Kenne Bell is doing you some big favor in upgrading the intake. Again you emphasize enthusiasm, but forget to check out your facts. The stock intake is more than capable of handling all of the boost you can throw at it. The cracking stock intake only refers to the coolant crossover, which for one was remedied with the later aluminum crossover on the mid-’01 up GT’s and two if you’ll notice, the coolant crossover area is not under pressure from the induction end and therefore isn’t affected by boost pressure.....nice try!2000BLKGT said:^^^^
What Gumbanger conveniently leaves out in his indepth bag of wind is the old adage: "you get what you pay for".
A couple of things to remember if your looking at the price of the KenneBell kit:
1) it comes with injectors
2) it comes with a new aluminum intake manifold
Not sure what kind of bucks 8 x 36-42# injectors cost...but add that to the bill on the centri....I'm sure it'll add up to quite a few more bucks.
The new aluminum intake is a very valuable part of the KB kit...so you get to ditch that plastic POS stocker that has a track record of inevitably breaking.
Try blowing a stock intake manifold with a centri set-up on a mild street car, and find an aftermarket replacement that will fill the need. Reichhart(sp)...no way...P51...ain't happening...both are pretty much race applications. So if/when that happens...you're stuck buying another plastic POS.
I priced out a polished Vortec 8psi non-cooled set-up at the same time I priced out my polished 6 psi KB...and at the end of the day, the difference out-of-pocket was minimal. (this included the price of install BTW)
While the KB may seem pricey at first...you get more value for your dollar....and pretty much everything is included in the kit besides spark plugs.
You get what you pay for!
02GTKB said:Kb Suck!
2000BLKGT said:Anyone want to buy this stuff:
Gearbanger 101 said:Again with the name calling. Look 2000BLKGT, if you can’t make a valid point there’s no need to get your panties in a bunch and call me names. Sit back and read before you start flapping and you’ll learn all you need to know. Yes, the KB does come with a new lower intake manifold. But what you also forget to mention is that it comes with one because it has to in order to mount the twin screw to the top of the engine, not because Kenne Bell is doing you some big favor in upgrading the intake. Again you emphasize enthusiasm, but forget to check out your facts. The stock intake is more than capable of handling all of the boost you can throw at it. The cracking stock intake only refers to the coolant crossover, which for one was remedied with the later aluminum crossover on the mid-’01 up GT’s and two if you’ll notice, the coolant crossover area is not under pressure from the induction end and therefore isn’t affected by boost pressure.....nice try!
As for value for your dollar…you’re grasping at straws there too. Sure the KB makes decent power at 6psi, but it costs as much as a Vortech Mongoose kit (which is complete with injectors and tune http://modularpowerhouse.com/produc...d=121&osCsid=ee8bfc0ffabba17af70a17f7765372bd ) and the KB makes in the neighbourhood of 40-50rwhp less. So what part of that equation do you consider more cost efficient?
The only part of your statement I’ll agree with is yes…you get what you pay for. Fortunately at this power level, you get it for a lot less with your average centrifugal!
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