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WLDHRSE

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I'm having a hard time deciding if I want an 11 or not. Actually I definitely want one, just not sure if I'll drop the dough to get one. I certainly wouldn't sell a fox for one. I may grab up a Boss 302 when they hit this summer, but keep thinking if I decide to do that, I'll prolly end up at a chebbie dealer gettin a 2010 Grand Sport vette coupe instead.
 

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I bought an new 08 for the winter ride and there is no comparison to driving my 88 Fox,it's like being back in the real world in the Fox
definitely keeping the Fox !!!
 
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ya iam gonna keep it no 11 now, i cant decide which way to get more power , supercharge it for now , the motor runs still really strong for 160,000 miles, or do the upper end motor mods iam thinkinn about, heads cam intake , all twisted wedge stuff, 410s, around 7000 installed, the supercharger is less, around the same hp gains, mabye when the motor goes bad i can do it all then? for now mabye just do the supercharger.
 

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GroverDill said:
That can be said for any car. I can make a honda faster than a 2011 GT, who cares.
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I have to agree with that statement. Hell i hear it all the time from guys in civics claiming they would rather put $15K into their $3000 civic and smoke $50K vette...than buy a vette.

Switch civic for Fox Mustang and it's the same arguement.

Justify it any way you want...but it pretty much boils down to money. If in your mind (not anyone specific, just in general) putting that sort of cash into a 20+ year old car makes it "better", then more power to you. But lets not kid ourselves here.

Put up a fox that have 600HP, a road race ready suspension and give it killer paint and wheel and i would still feel (based on what is important to me) that the '11 is a "better" car.
 

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"Better" is a very subjective term. I don't own Fox Mustangs because I have to, I do so because I enjoy having them. They're fun to drive, easy to work on and easy to personalize. For what I want in a hobby car, they are perfect. I could afford to have a new one if I wanted to, but I'm not going to spend that kind of money on a car that I only drive 3 or 4,000 miles a year. I work and drive in the city and people have zero respect for other's cars when parallel parking, so I drive my Ranger to work. It is a better car for that. If we want to take a trip in comfort or go out with another couple, we drive my wife's 08 Adrenalin. It is a better car for that.

I've driven both an 05 and a 10. They're "okay" for what they are. I find the seating position to be rather uncomfortable and the interiors to look kind of cheap, especially on the earlier cars. Sure, they have a lot more power out of the box and ride like a more modern car. If you like them, more power to you. For me, not so much.
 

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A foxbody rides a certain way. Yes, rough and a bit crude and takes more effort than a newer car, but it's fun as hell. I had a 97 Z28, modded, was pretty fast. Handled better, rode better, could cruse at 110 like it was going 60, but just wasn't as much fun. A fox, it's fun as hell to drive. All mustangs are basically the same layout, unibody RWD, vertical engine/trans 4/5 passenger cars.

About the civic, it's FWD and an econobox body. The only way to make it anything would be to covert it to RWD and put a V8 in it, then that would be something, because it would basically be a civic body and that's it. Anyone who says the ride and handling of a FWD car is anything like a RWD car, doesn't know how to use RWD. Except for braking, all the front wheels are for is holding the front end up and pointing the direction of desired, everything else is done with the back wheels.
 

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wythors said:
"Better" is a very subjective term.
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I agree 100%
 

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Lets all just hug it out.
 

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The '11 being better in the following ways:

  1. Much newer chassis that handles light years ahead on the skid pad
  2. Much tighter chassis than even a caged/braced/tied Fox Notch could dream of
  3. As far as safety is concerned...there's no comparison
  4. VVT offers 400hp and 30 mpg on the highway...unheard of for a NA Fox

However, the Fox is starting to take over in the nostalgia department.

Last year was the first year that my car has ever received so many complements and recognition from a wide demographic; it was insane to say the least.

As you glance down the line...what car grabs your attention? I know that for me, it's the Fox. Don't get me wrong, I think the Saleen is awesome and the Termi's are cool, but the Fox takes me back.

 

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The '11 being better in the following ways:

  1. Much newer chassis that handles light years ahead on the skid pad
  2. Much tighter chassis than even a caged/braced/tied Fox Notch could dream of
  3. As far as safety is concerned...there's no comparison
  4. VVT offers 400hp and 30 mpg on the highway...unheard of for a NA Fox

However, the Fox is starting to take over in the nostalgia department.

Last year was the first year that my car has ever received so many complements and recognition from a wide demographic; it was insane to say the least.

As you glance down the line...what car grabs your attention? I know that for me, it's the Fox. Don't get me wrong, I think the Saleen is awesome and the Termi's are cool, but the Fox takes me back.

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Great point.
 

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But for me, I enjoy the "hot rod" feeling of my old Fox.
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+1, and I dont even have a fox anymore, but my '95 is similar though. My opinion is that the '11 is more of a BMW with the mustang name. The power is awesome, but pony cars have never been about a perfect ride and creature comforts.
 

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It can't be a BMW, it make much too much torque for a BMW.
 

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It did beat the m3 in track testing. Can't dispute it's not a racer...even if it's huge.
 

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The extra weight is mostly from safety equipment.

Folks also remember the 11 GT costs the same as the 03 04 Cobras did 8 years ago....

New cars are not cheap, however the new Mustang is still true to the Mustang name with great bang for the buck.
 

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RedFoxGT said:
The biggest problem for me with the new Mustang and new "sport" cars in general, is that they are now being made more and more to target the older crowd -those who like a smooth and quiet ride, lots of room, and unnecessary bells an whistles. The consequence of this is a heavy ass car which is as big as a boat, boring to drive as a Camry, and costs a fortune to own.

Ford has completely deviated from the original concept of the Mustang which was a fun, no frills car with good power. The only new car off the top of my head that comes close to this is the Subaru WRX/STI which is pretty sad.
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In order for Ford to keep the Pony car alive, it had to step up on the interior department along with fit/finish and NVH. Rags were grilling the 'Stang alive for Walmart like interior and an over all ride quality that took you back to 1979.

With the vast improvements, many have embraced the Mustang as a great bang-for-your-buck buy. This is key in order for the Mustang to keep its edge on the competition. It has stayed true in the sense that it doesn't feel heavy (compared to Challenger/Camaro) and it finally employs two mills that are worthy of being under the bonnet of a 'Stang all for a realistic price.
 
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