Kenne Bell vs. Nitrous

[Nobody]

Will a KB 1500 add about the same kick as a 100 shot of nitrous? I believe peak vs. peak they would come out about even to the wheels. However, I believe there is something more enjoyable about the KB below the curve that I might be missing with Nitrous. How would it feel different? Also, I don't want to hear about how Nitrous sucks or that the KB is "always on" speak.

 

[BlueDevil95]

in my opinion, a roots style blower is a waste on a 5 liter. how much more low end do you really need? plus the nitrous isn't always beating on the motor. nitrous is a better choice and much more fun in my humble opinion.

 

[Rootus]

in my opinion, a roots style blower is a waste on a 5 liter. how much more low end do you really need?

Need? Since when did need enter into the equation. (and a KB is not a roots blower, BTW)

There are 94/95 folks with KB's running in the 11's, so it can obviously make sick power. Everyone I've talked to says it's like converting your 5.0 to a big block, feels like you have lots o' cubes. If I weren't dead set on a turbo, the KB would be my second choice. Although if you are thinking of serious power down the road, the 2.2L is a better option. The 1.5L seems to run out of poop past about 350 rwhp.

Dave

 

[Gravel]

I agree with Dave..

I have done a bunch of research on this board and others, I have decided that my money is going to a Blowzilla.... It took a while to decided between that and the 1500 but decided on the bigger one because bigger is always better right.... I do not want to be limited by any part that I have purchased and would not be happy to find out that the 1500 would not later get me where I want to go..

I want instant (near instant) on! I don't want to wait for boost.. I spend enough time waiting for boost in the other 30lb boost Ford that I drive...

As for the comparison between that and a 100 shot of Nitrous, I'll let you know after I get the KB...

 

[Joes95GT]

For all intensive purposes, we'll say you want to run 10 pounds of boost and per every pound of boost, you pick up 13 horsepower. With a KB, you will pick up 130 horsepower and about 200 ft/lbs. Sound about right? You would need a 150 shot of nitrous to compare to that. If both cars were tuned, I believe the nitrous car would be faster (at the strip). You are getting all that power right off the line with nitrous, where as you have to wait (albeit not that long) for the KB to start turning out some serious power.

Safety is debatable. I'm assuming this is daily driver? Nitrous is harder on parts and on the motor - period. Boost builds gradually, where nitrous hits all at once. I would say that the KB would be better for a daily driven car that is looking for some good time slips. With a KB, you don't have to rev to the moon to make power, which cuts down on the wear and tear of parts. Nitrous is pure horsepower, but it is at (what I believe to be) a much higher risk.

All the reasons above are the reasons why I would use nitrous.

Joe

 

[Nobody]

I hear that the 2.2L KB at 6psi is outside of it's efficiency range. The 2.2L KB looks good but it seems like more of a track blower. I wouldn't want to push any more than 5-8 psi since it's my daily driver and only car. From what I read on this board, the cars running the lower boost are more reliable. maybe it's just my imagination. But I don't see many posts that say "I was running 5psi and I blew a head gasket" Am I missing something?

 

[Nobody]

"All the reasons above are the reasons why I would use nitrous."

Joe, you post the funniest commenst! I love it!

 

[Rootus]

For reliability, don't look at boost pressure, look at how much power you're putting down. That is what will kill the motor, along with RPM. I have heard people with the 2.2L say that it's a myth about the 2.2L being inefficient at lower RPM .

And Joe, you're an idiot . Just kidding! I think the KB would build power faster than nitrous -- it can produce full boost at 2000 RPM, whereas you need to wait until 3500 to safely squirt nitrous (if my information is correct... there was a time I actually considered a 150 shot).

Either one would certainly be a kick in the pants. For me it would come down to this -- the KB is always on, always ready to go. The N2O has to be refilled. The KB costs quite a lot more, but should remain fairly static once installed. The N2O is super cheap to install, but if you use it regularly you'll be spending a fair chunk of cash filling the bottle all the time.

Dave

 

[Joes95GT]

And Joe, you're an idiot . Just kidding! I think the KB would build power faster than nitrous -- it can produce full boost at 2000 RPM, whereas you need to wait until 3500 to safely squirt nitrous (if my information is correct... there was a time I actually considered a 150 shot).

Who says that I am going to wait until 3500 to squirt it?
Dave, you could quite possibly be right. I think it would be a toss up between the two. You could always leave the line at 6k.

I have a very bias opinion when it comes to the "what part to get" question because I drive my car when I feel like it (usually only on Saturday and Sunday) and I have a very one-sided, drag racing mentality. Nitrous is much more simple for me. I like the incognito look, and you can really achieve that with nitrous. Plus, I have a nitrous fill station less than 2 miles away from my house.

Which makes more horsepower? That could be debated. If I were a betting kind of guy, I'd bet on the nitrous car (150 shot v. 10 lb KB). Why? I don't know really. Just because I think nitrous makes more power. Do I have evidence of backing that up? Nope.

"All the reasons above are the reasons why I would use nitrous."

Joe, you post the funniest commenst! I love it!

I just try to keep things light around here

Joe

 

[Rootus]

I think a 300 shot of nitrous could be entertaining. Probably only for a couple of seconds, but what a ride it would be...

Dave

 

[Zero Signal]

There's no arguement, the KB is better than nitrous. The only thing that keeps nitrous in the equation is the cost. It's dirt cheap power. Of course, in the long run it will be more, but that would take a long time and you would have to be pretty trigger happy.

BTW, there are guys running 11's with the 1500