Koni Sale

[limp]

Would this be a decent shock/strut set up for my grocery getter with some H&R springs??
https://www.maximummotorsports.com/Assets/store_images/struts_shocks/KONI-8.jpg

 

[Cheapskate207]

Yes. I talked to the koni rep at mustang week last year and he informed me the oranges are the same as the yellows on the softest settings.

 

[bird_dog0347]

I have the yellows on my 92, and put the orange ones on my old 2014, just get them while they are on sale and in stock.

 

[General karthief]

Yes. I talked to the koni rep at mustang week last year and he informed me the oranges are the same as the yellows on the softest settings.

When did you start wearing glasses???

 

[limp]

I was going to install some oem type Monroes or Gabriels... These Koni's would be a better way to go???

 

[bird_dog0347]

Yes, the Koni would be better than Monroe or Gabriels

 

[7991LXnSHO]

@bird_dog0347
Better for what type of use? Valving makes for different ride and handling characteristics.

 

[limp]

@bird_dog0347
Better for what type of use? Valving makes for different ride and handling characteristics.

Just a fun driver. grocery getter that would occasionally get some "spririted " driving........ I am guessing the Gabriels would work fine for my driving, but for $100 more if the Koni's would make a big difference I would do it?

 

[7991LXnSHO]

Just a fun driver. grocery getter that would occasionally get some "spririted " driving........

Do you want your kidney stones shaken loose?

 

[limp]

Do you want your kidney stones shaken loose?

I only have one kidney.... Would the Koni's be that much rougher??

 

[7991LXnSHO]

Do you want your kidney stones shaken loose?

This will help.

KONI NA | Which color KONI

KONI is the world leader in adjustable shock absorber technology with over 50 years of worldwide racing success.

www.koni-na.com

 

[DudeStang]

I have those on both my 2014 GT and my Fox. Very happy with them.

 

[limp]

This will help.

KONI NA | Which color KONI

KONI is the world leader in adjustable shock absorber technology with over 50 years of worldwide racing success.

www.koni-na.com

It sounds like the orange ones in my Pic are the softest riding Koni's??

 

[bird_dog0347]

How harsh the ride is will be determined MUCH more by the spring rate and more specifically the wheel rate, the job of the damper (shock/strut) is to control the spring. You can make it a little softer/stiffer by adjusting the shocks on the yellows, but mainly it will be the spring that determines the ride quality.

I have Koni Yellows (adjustable) in my notch with MM Coilovers on all 4 corners, a Cobra IRS, all poly bushings, and the below spring rates and sway bars. My car rides fairly stiff, and you can feel every bump but it handles really well and has fantastic manners. It rides VERY different from a factory soft ride, but it also doesn't have the snap oversteer like factory.

350lbs/in x 10" x 2.50" front springs
650lbs/in x 8" x 2.25" rear springs

stock IRS rear swaybar.
1985-93 V8 1.30" (33mm) front swaybar.

There is a metric S-Ton of the RIGHT information in the link below. Determine what you want the car to do and how much you're willing to compromise to get it to the place you want it to be, then choose the springs and dampers to match that.

Getting Started

 

[General karthief]

Nothing about wheels and tires, they also effect ride/handling.

 

[Olivethefet]

Pretty sure those are the same as the ones I put on my car. I like them.

 

[7991LXnSHO]

It sounds like the orange ones in my Pic are the softest riding Koni's??

Orange are the softest, like the soft setting on the yellows, is what I read.

I disagree with the statement that the shocks only affect the ride a little bit. Unless you have a ridiculously high spring rate, (for a lowered or track only car), the shocks’ valving will make the difference between feeling every expansion crack and rock or not, and floating or having very little suspension travel over road variations.
Springs do matter in ride quality and handling, but they have to work with the dampers.

Example, on our first band wagon, I had the shocks and struts replaced, and they used the wrong KYB model. It went to riding like a freakin’ lumber wagon until we sold it. The next time, I was specific about which Monroe shocks and struts I wanted, and not only did it get rid of the rear float over big road dips it came with from the factory, it also rode smoother, even fully loaded.

The Oespectra dampers I put on my Grand Marquis restored both the ride and handling to smooth and more controled to cop car and taxi levels. I could have gone with something tighter, but these dampers and springs work well together.
You have to think about the whole package.

 

[Olivethefet]

Disregard my previous statement. I do not have those shocks. Sorry!

 

[bird_dog0347]

Orange are the softest, like the soft setting on the yellows, is what I read.

I disagree with the statement that the shocks only affect the ride a little bit. Unless you have a ridiculously high spring rate, (for a lowered or track only car), the shocks’ valving will make the difference between feeling every expansion crack and rock or not, and floating or having very little suspension travel over road variations.
Springs do matter in ride quality and handling, but they have to work with the dampers.

Example, on our first band wagon, I had the shocks and struts replaced, and they used the wrong KYB model. It went to riding like a freakin’ lumber wagon until we sold it. The next time, I was specific about which Monroe shocks and struts I wanted, and not only did it get rid of the rear float over big road dips it came with from the factory, it also rode smoother, even fully loaded.

The Oespectra dampers I put on my Grand Marquis restored both the ride and handling to smooth and more controled to cop car and taxi levels. I could have gone with something tighter, but these dampers and springs work well together.
You have to think about the whole package.

Agreed that the dampers can make a huge difference if the springs are soft, but like you and I already both said, they would be mismatched in that case. Again, decide how you want the car to ride and perform, where you are and are not willing to compromise, then pick the springs and dampers to meet that goal. Sway bars and overall suspension geometry play a huge role in it too but for the purpose of this conversations let's stick to the springs and dampers.

 

[7991LXnSHO]

Agreed that the dampers can make a huge difference if the springs are soft, but like you and I already both said, they would be mismatched in that case. Again, decide how you want the car to ride and perform, where you are and are not willing to compromise, then pick the springs and dampers to meet that goal. Sway bars and overall suspension geometry play a huge role in it too but for the purpose of this conversations let's stick to the springs and dampers.

Ok. You are also thinking about the whole package. If the springs are too strong, and the shocks soft, it will feel every surface imperfection and still bounce over slight dips. Or it will bottom out on the street.
Yes, sway bars are a big part of handling, and less about ride, but the whole package makes a difference.

@limp the yellow ones are adjustable, so they are more expensive. If you are not auto crossing, (running over orange cones in a parking lot? ), not going on the tail of the dragon, not drifting, and Bentley does not like getting jarred, I bet you would not use more than the low setting and may like the OEspectra. If I am off about your cruising expectations and demographics, get the yellow Koni’s and follow Warhorseracing for appropriate advice.