KZGUNS tuning

Blown88GT · Dec 26, 2018

I agree "vagueness associated with the settings". It is the hallmark of hardware/software developers.

To the OP, use the tool tips in Tuner Studio, i.e. the little blue question marks.

Tool Tip:
Frequency to operate at. This varies with valve type. Ford/Bosch valves typically operate 50-100Hz. Miata valves are closer to 300Hz.
Be aware that above 78Hz the output becomes less precise.

Sine there is no 78, just 31, 62, 92 then 124....I've been using 124 Hz.

KZGUNS · Dec 27, 2018

I've been working on cars damn near my entire 42 years of life. Buying my first car at 14 (70 Torino) fixing it up and driving it when i was 16. My bro raced fords and had many over the years and we built many engines in that time. This Fuel Injection systems and computers etc is mostly new to me. Seeing you guys talk about all the fine points of these tunes makes me feel like the guy who cant even change his own oil. Lots to learn for me but i'm eager as i like to know everything i can about my cars. You guys are a wonderful resource!! I'm glad you're willing to spread your knowledge.

KZGUNS · Dec 30, 2018

Previous owner was running a WB as well I took apart the plug to confirm 21 pin he also had a tach output on 7 (edit: not tach, boost controller.) Here’s a picture of the jumpers. I think it’s correct but can someone confirm?
Thanks!

KZGUNS · Dec 31, 2018

Got my spartan 2 today! Question.. are you guys wiring the power to a key on source? It says connect to a source that’s only on when engine is running. I assume I’m not going to be using the brown wire (simulated NB).
Thanks again!

a91what · Dec 31, 2018

Correct on both counts... I like to use a relay to feed the WB, the key power source will turn the relay on and the relay feeds the wb with battery 12v, take the ground for the wb directly to the ECU ground or the battery. Use the WB signal wire

Blown88GT · Dec 31, 2018

BTW, the white circuit board is the Microsquirt Module.
Firmware updates will identify it as such.
It is not the same as the Microsquirt or the other MS2's.

I recently put a switch between 85 & ground so can turn the controller off.
Ignition on for a long time heats the WB & a cold shot of exhaust gas on startup can damage it.

KZGUNS · Dec 31, 2018

Thanks guys! I’ll pick up a relay.

KZGUNS · Jan 2, 2019

which idle advance setting should i use? Load/RPM/Adaptive

Thanks!

a91what · Jan 2, 2019

Adaptive.
This has to be setup a certain way for it to work correctly.
The 5 blocks need to have numbers like I have below.
Rpm / *advance
200 / -5
50 / -1
0 / 0
-50 / 2
-200 / 5

KZGUNS · Jan 2, 2019

a91what said:
Adaptive.
This has to be setup a certain way for it to work correctly.
The 5 blocks need to have numbers like I have below.
Rpm / *advance
200 / -5
50 / -1
0 / 0
-50 / 2
-200 / 5

How’s this look.

KZGUNS · Jan 2, 2019

@a91what
And here's the full tune to look at to see if i'm still on the right track

KZGUNS · Jan 6, 2019

Got the O2 and controller with relay all wired up and installed. Is this tune ready for a first start?
Thanks
Ken

Blown88GT · Jan 6, 2019

KZGUNS said:
How’s this look.

A91 told me this won't work.

a91what said:
This makes sense now, this is wrong.
Apply as: adder = this is what you need

Setting this as 'set value' forces the timing to that amount at idle. Sorry I didnt catch this sooner.

Blown88GT · Jan 6, 2019

a91what said:
Adaptive.
This has to be setup a certain way for it to work correctly.
The 5 blocks need to have numbers like I have below.
Rpm / *advance
200 / -5
50 / -1
0 / 0
-50 / 2
-200 / 5

Shouldn't this be, 50 / -2 ??
Rpm / *advance
200 / -5
50 / -2
0 / 0
-50 / 2
-200 / 5

KZGUNS · Jan 6, 2019

That makes sense! I made the change to "adder"...

a91what · Jan 6, 2019

Blown88GT said:
Shouldn't this be,
Rpm / *advance
200 / -5
50 / -2
0 / 0
-50 / 2
-200 / 5[

It can be any variation, some cars i have used as much as 10 at -200, they do not have to be the same on both sides of the zero

Blown88GT · Jan 6, 2019

What about the "Apply as Adder" you advised for me?

Blown88GT · Jan 6, 2019

KZGUNS said:
Got the O2 and controller with relay all wired up and installed. Is this tune ready for a first start?
Thanks
Ken

You gotta try it some time.

a91what · Jan 6, 2019

Blown88GT said:
What about the "Apply as Adder" you advised for me?

Both of you should have it set as Apply as 'adder' I what this does is takes the number from this table and adds it to the number in the base ign table. so at 200 / -5 its going to subtract 5* timing from the base table when the idle is 200 or more above target.

KZGUNS · Jan 6, 2019

Blown88GT said:
You gotta try it some time.

Ha! No truer words! I don’t know why but I’m more nervous than when breaking in a flat tappet cam.

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