Loc Tite problem

1320stang

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How about removing the sending unit AND the extension and working on it at your bench? that way your not working on it in the engine compartment with chemicals or heat.

BTW, you don't want to get MEK in your eyes, if you do, start planning on what type dark sunglasses you want to wear around all the time since you'll be blind.

I'm a pretty firm believer of wearing safety glasses anytime your working on your car, for whatever reason. I also have a set of those Mechanix gloves, those are pretty nice.

 

Jsprint68

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Don’t want to highjack this but does anyone know how high of a burn temperature Propane is or MAP gas?

 

Hack

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Jsprint68 said:

Don’t want to highjack this but does anyone know how high of a burn temperature Propane is or MAP gas?

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I did a quick google and got 2828 C for propane and 2976 C for MAPP, but IMO the MAPP flame seems to be a LOT hotter than propane when used in a hand torch.

 

Jsprint68

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I didn't think it would be that high!

 

1320stang

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That can't be right, steel melts at 2400-2800.... Oh, wait, you said Celsus... wait, thats even worse. 2828 C is 5122 F and 2976 C is 5388 F!!!!

 

Jester67

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http://bernzomatic.com/bernzomatic/consumer/jhtml/gasTypeComparisons.jhtml

Thats in Oxygen in air Propane is 3,450 and MAPP is 3,650

 

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I don't know about anyone else, but my oil sender extension is aluminum. We all know that standard aluminum melts at much lower temps than steel, so be careful with that heat if you are trying to save the extension.

 

wild70stang

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I appreciate the advice about propane torches, but if I need a butt load of heat I would use an oxygen acetylene set up. I have used this before to heat up steel pipe and bend it, so I know not to burn through the metal. Now I dont know if the loc tite was put on the extension piece that screws into the block because my dad told me this. My car is 250 miles from me because I am in college, but if all goes well I can take a Greyhound bus back home for $28 . But because the oil sender isnt defective yet, I wont bother with it right now.
Thanks again guys.

 

Hack

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1320stang said:

That can't be right, steel melts at 2400-2800.... Oh, wait, you said Celsus... wait, thats even worse. 2828 C is 5122 F and 2976 C is 5388 F!!!!

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Right, and you can use a flame to melt/cut steel. I'm not sure why you think it can't be right. However, I'm sure that a hand torch doesn't get near the maximum temperature of a propane or MAPP flame. Remember that the flame temperature doesn't translate into the temperature of the thing you are heating.

Ever tried to melt ice off your roof with a propane torch? I have, and it doesn't work. There's just not enough energy there. Possibly a tiny point within the flame is very hot, but the torch just doesn't put out the quantity of heat necessary to do much.

 

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jbuening

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Hack said:

Ever tried to melt ice off your roof with a propane torch? I have, and it doesn't work.

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No but it will put a nice hole in your roof You would want distributed heat and not concentrated heat to melt ice.

 

Hack

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jbuening said:

No but it will put a nice hole in your roof You would want distributed heat and not concentrated heat to melt ice.

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It would have to actually melt through the layer of ice before it could melt the roof. And a propane torch will take forever to even melt through an inch or two of ice.

If the torch put out a lot of heat, you could easily distribute the heat by keeping the torch moving. But it doesn't put out enough heat to require any movement. You can literally hold a propane hand torch up to a big hunk of ice for quite a while and nothing will happen.

Is that clear enough for you or do I have to explain it in a simpler way?

You may laugh, but there are companies in Minnesota that come out to people's houses and melt the ice off their roof. They use larger torches or big steam guns, though.