Looking for a better product...

Here you go http://www.jeffswerkstatt.com/ very similar to Ziano JeffsWerkstatt is an updates version of Klasse use Prime Strong to clean the paint off of any wax/oils then hit it up with Acrylic Jett: Trigger. The look and durability of Ziano and for about the same price.

MoonieGT said:

I just got my GT about 3 weeks ago and I have been using some Meguires gold class clear coat car wax. Needless to say it is not an outstanding product. The water does bead up nicely on it, but there is no pop to the finish. It lacks the depth I have seen in other products. A few years ago I used Zaino products on my SS and loved them. The car looked great. I'd like to find something better than the Meguires product I used, but does not cost as much as the Zaino products. I really can't justify the Zaino startup costs at the moment.

What do you guys use?

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can i ask what color your car is?

Try meguiars #26 if you have a black car this wax will blow your mind. Also try the NXT. Meguiars has a lot of options depending on what you are looking for.

I use Meguiars on my DSG Gt and it works great.

You likely need to clay and polish to get the best out of any wax. The wax is the final touch to a good finish, not the whole answer. Read up on Autopia or autogeek or Meguiars to see what a good detail can do for your finish.

Good luck,

Matt

MoonieGT said:

Clay is not the answer. The car is brand new and has no flaws on the paint yet...

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If you want to keep it that way, you should wash the car with a detergent that will remove oils and grease. You should then Claybar the car. When the car is being transported, all sorts of nasty stuff gets on it ..... most of it too small to see, but it starts working on your paint. After a full claybar, use the wax/polish of your choice. I use Zaino and love it.

IMO i would go with the Zymol wax. i used it all the time on my bronco and it always left a good deep shine and lasted a good while.

MoonieGT said:

Clay is not the answer. The car is brand new and has no flaws on the paint yet...

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To get depth and wetness out of any finish regardless of the color you have to make the clear coat on top as smooth and clear as possible.

There are two common ways to do this:

1. Clay will remove all of the above surface contamination. If you have never used it please try it on the car and report back. It is an incredible product and for most consumers will make a dramatic difference in the look and feel of your paint.

2. Polish will enrich the paint with oils and most polishes when used with a PC will offer some swirl removal if used properly. This will clarify the top surface of the clear coat and add even more depth and gloss.

Wax is just a protective barrier on the surface of the paint to protect from fallout. A good quality carnuba wax, or a good quality synthetic (any brand) will provide this protection.

If you apply wax over an unprepared surface the paint will not usually look much different. The real difference comes from the preparation and cleaning stages of detailing. There is a bunch to read about this online....

Good luck,

Matt

Next time you want to detail just clay before wax. This will strip all the wax off the car. You dont need to wash with laundry soap I never have.

make sure to evenly apply zymol or else itll look like poo!

i realize this should be done with every wax, but ive found the zymol is the worst...im not saying zymol as a wax is bad however!

it is really good...it just needs a higher level of attention when applying

If the car is brand new..your saying it's an '07 or '08 model ...correct? The '07 Stangs stopped shipping in a few weeks ago.And being that it is new....when the vehicles come off the transport,they get inspected and thoroughly tested before being put on the sales lot.When the vehicle is sold,it is sent over to clean up aka detail.They wash and claybar the vehicle and I have seen the finish after they do this so I know it's been done.I get the cars before they go to detail.A lot of times they look like crap.

What I'm saying here is you shouldn't need to clay the paint.Wash it and then after it's dry,take the tips of your fingers and lightly brush against the paint surface.Does it feel smooth like glass or does it only sort of feel smooth with some grittiness to it like it feels as if it were still dirty?If it feels gritty in any way then you should clay it.Otherwise don't bother.Tungsten is a difficult color to spot imperfections with the naked eye.Try doing all of this in one of those do-it-yourself carwash bays.The florescent (spelling) lighting is one of the best to view your finish detail.Long as it's bright.

I didn't have very good luck with Zymol.And it only lasted a week or so.I used to think Meguires Gold Class was good for a little while.But it just tended to have more of an oily gloss appearance to it.It looked good then I noticed the Gold Class has some rubbing compound agents in it.If you use it enough,you will remove paint.And the NXT stuff is just a waste of money.I havn't tried Zaino myself but I know for a fact it's good.Check Consumer Reports ratings on Waxes and polishes by the way.You'll see there's more talk from the manufacture of these products than the results they actually bring...which is..most are no better than some turtle wax and black magic products.

Check Consumer Reports ratings on Waxes and polishes by the way.You'll see there's more talk from the manufacture of these products than the results they actually bring...which is..most are no better than some turtle wax and black magic products.

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Consumer reports is crap as there is no way to scientifically test "gloss" and "shine" the way they claimed they did. Detailing is nothing more then preference. I look for performance (how long it last between needing another coat) and depth, what I feel looks good others may not like.

MustangLX-5.0 said:

If the car is brand new..your saying it's an '07 or '08 model ...correct? The '07 Stangs stopped shipping in a few weeks ago.And being that it is new....when the vehicles come off the transport,they get inspected and thoroughly tested before being put on the sales lot.When the vehicle is sold,it is sent over to clean up aka detail.They wash and claybar the vehicle and I have seen the finish after they do this so I know it's been done.I get the cars before they go to detail.A lot of times they look like crap.

What I'm saying here is you shouldn't need to clay the paint.Wash it and then after it's dry,take the tips of your fingers and lightly brush against the paint surface.Does it feel smooth like glass or does it only sort of feel smooth with some grittiness to it like it feels as if it were still dirty?If it feels gritty in any way then you should clay it.Otherwise don't bother.Tungsten is a difficult color to spot imperfections with the naked eye.Try doing all of this in one of those do-it-yourself carwash bays.The florescent (spelling) lighting is one of the best to view your finish detail.Long as it's bright.

I didn't have very good luck with Zymol.And it only lasted a week or so.I used to think Meguires Gold Class was good for a little while.But it just tended to have more of an oily gloss appearance to it.It looked good then I noticed the Gold Class has some rubbing compound agents in it.If you use it enough,you will remove paint.And the NXT stuff is just a waste of money.I havn't tried Zaino myself but I know for a fact it's good.Check Consumer Reports ratings on Waxes and polishes by the way.You'll see there's more talk from the manufacture of these products than the results they actually bring...which is..most are no better than some turtle wax and black magic products.

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You've actually seen a dealership clay a car? I used to work as a porter at a car lot (granted it was a LONG time ago) and there was no way they would clay a car, and that was the biggest and busiest car lot in Arkansas (Landers). I bought my old 05.5 Audi new and watched them detail and after that, my current 07 GT new and watched them do that one as well to make sure no harsh brushes were used on the paint and clay was never used, nor would I have wanted them to do it. I'm not saying your lot didn't clay, but I have NEVER heard of a dealership claying a car, it's just to long of a process for them to clay every car that gets sold and ran through detail.

Just because a car is new, I can almost garuantee that it still needs clayed. It probably collected rail dust as well as all kinds of airborne contaminates during transportation.

Also, are you saying if you use Gold Class "wax" enough it will remove paint? Sorry, but

There might be a very small amount of "rubbing compound agents" in it, but I would bet anything that no matter how much you use it, it will not remove paint. Do you think Megs, who is one of the most well known car care products manufacturers, would make something that is supposed to protect your paint that actually removes paint? For some reason, I'm doubting it.

Sure, you don't have to clay or polish and you can slap on some Turtle Wax and be done, but you aren't going to get NEAR the results unless you do it right and prep the car properly beforehand.

Oh yeah, I don't care what consumer reports says, Turtle Wax, in my opinion, is not near up to par as some of the other waxes and sealents out there, and yes, I've actually tried it a while back before I really researched how to properly detail and read about some of the other millions of products available. There are tons of better products and if that's all you are using, you are missing out big time.

To the original poster, I would try several different types of waxes and sealents and see what you like best. Megs NXT is over the counter and works "decently". It goes on fairly easily, but doesn't last very long in my opinion. Opti-Seal is online order only and relatively expensive, but goes on extremly easy and lasts a long time, but gives a mirror like shine rather than a true depth.

It all depends on what you are looking for, depth or shine. Try a few out there and see what you like the best.