Looking For New Brakes...Opinions

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 10, 2005

I have been looking to upgrade my brakes. I figured since I am making 500 hp I need something better than my stock single piston front setup. I also want something that looks better. I have been researching the Baer system. Their dual piston front kit comes with a new "improved" master cylinder for our cars, which really ups the price. Brembo makes a four piston kit that doesn't cost much more, but it doesn't have the master cylinder.

Who here has upgraded their brakes and what improvements have you noticed? What setup do you have and are you using a new master cylinder? I think the new cylinder would definately help, but I dont know if it is entirely needed. Any pics would help too. Thanks!

94GTLaserRC · Dec 10, 2005

I now it sounds trite, but I dont know how you could go wrong with the Cobra 13's. I did a dinky upgrade to some used PBR's a couple of years ago, only cause I got them with rotors for only $100. Not worth it for the power YOURE making though.

RC

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 10, 2005

The Cobra ones are the same thing but I dont want the Cobra logo. I also like the look of the slotted Baer rotors.

94GTLaserRC · Dec 10, 2005

S/CBlack95GT said:
The Cobra ones are the same thing but I dont want the Cobra logo. I also like the look of the slotted Baer rotors.

Cobra ones are same as what?

Baer's are nice, fro what Ive seen in some pics.

RC

blazrrr · Dec 10, 2005

S/CBlack95GT said:
The Cobra ones are the same thing but I dont want the Cobra logo. I also like the look of the slotted Baer rotors.

I was looking around a few days ago and found that some , if not all, MACH1's came with same calipers as the Cobras but without the logo. I will shearch for them again and post a link.

*edit*

Found the link(s)

front calipers:

http://www.stangsuspension.com/store/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=801

13" rotors:

http://www.stangsuspension.com/store/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=437

Here is the link for a kit that inlcudes both the calipers and rotors:

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=3440

It is cheaper to buy them seperately from stang suspension than to buy the kit from FFRP ($375 vs.$475). This kit does not include the master cylinder. From what I understand, the some people think that a stock GT master cylinder is just fine (you might want to search for that on your own).

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 10, 2005

94GTLaserRC said:
Cobra ones are same as what?

Baer's are nice, fro what Ive seen in some pics.

RC

The Cobra ones are the same as the Baer dual piston calipers.

The Mach 1, Cobra, and Baer calipers are all made by PBR. I just really like the look of the Baer caliper. I guess you pay for the name.

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 10, 2005

blazrrr said:
I was looking around a few days ago and found that some , if not all, MACH1's came with same calipers as the Cobras but without the logo. I will shearch for them again and post a link.

*edit*

Found the link(s)

front calipers:

http://www.stangsuspension.com/store/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=801

13" rotors:

http://www.stangsuspension.com/store/comersus_viewitem.asp?idproduct=437

Here is the link for a kit that inlcudes both the calipers and rotors:

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/part_details.asp?PartKeyField=3440

It is cheaper to buy them seperately from stang suspension than to buy the kit from FFRP ($375 vs.$475). This kit does not include the master cylinder. From what I understand, the some people think that a stock GT master cylinder is just fine (you might want to search for that on your own).

Thanks for all that. Buying the blank caliper and then the rotors would be a great way to save money. It's funny because a couple years ago I sold those exact calipers(minus the bracket) from a 99 GT for $200 on Ebay. I couldnt find the 13 inch conversion bracket anywhere so I just sold them.

RFMustangGT · Dec 10, 2005

nevermind, I missread something.

blazrrr · Dec 11, 2005

S/CBlack95GT said:
Thanks for all that. Buying the blank caliper and then the rotors would be a great way to save money. It's funny because a couple years ago I sold those exact calipers(minus the bracket) from a 99 GT for $200 on Ebay. I couldnt find the 13 inch conversion bracket anywhere so I just sold them.

I have been looking around for information about the bracket you are talking about. Someone let me know if I am missinformed, there is no clear explanation. 94-95 cars need a bracket to help attach the caliper to the hub but 96-98 cars dont? Do we need the bracket at all?

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 11, 2005

blazrrr said:
I have been looking around for information about the bracket you are talking about. Someone let me know if I am missinformed, there is no clear explanation. 94-95 cars need a bracket to help attach the caliper to the hub but 96-98 cars dont? Do we need the bracket at all?

Without the bracket those calipers rubbed a little on my spindles. It wasnt a real big deal, but I didnt feel comfortable using them. I also didnt think slapping those calipers on my car and still using the stock sized rotors would be of much benefit.

YEAHLOH95 · Dec 11, 2005

i got the cobra calipers and sanded off the cobra ,then pollished the whole thing. they bolted right on no extra brackets needed and i'm running the stock master cyl too i'm also running the ford slotted and drilled rotors on front and baers on back

S/CBlack95GT · Dec 11, 2005

YEAHLOH95 said:
i got the cobra calipers and sanded off the cobra ,then pollished the whole thing. they bolted right on no extra brackets needed and i'm running the stock master cyl too i'm also running the ford slotted and drilled rotors on front and baers on back

Yea, the 13 inch kit bolts right up. Did you notice much of a difference over stock with your upgrade?

YEAHLOH95 · Dec 11, 2005

yeah it has been one of the best upgrades so far to my car , big improvment in braking i like the feel with the stock master cyl its firmer ...

Car Nut · Dec 11, 2005

I kept the stock MC and it feels just fine, even with stainless lines (I'd recommend getting those).

I've got the Cobra front and rear kits and I'm very pleased. Tons better than stock. Possibly the most effective mod I've done.

That's my 2 cents and another vote for what's already been mentioned above.

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