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Adam95GT

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OK well here we go... i wanna drop my car i heard you dont need a spring compressor which is A ok by me... lol how hard is it to do... i know my probe was fairly easy... I gotta get a haynes for this car yet... another thing is im seeing all kinds of years for fitment of springs... do the verts take different springs???

Here is what ive seen:

This unit fits ALL Ford Mustangs 79-04
5.0, LX, GT, Cobra and also 2.3, 3.8,4.6, 2V,4V
COUPE,CONVERTABLE, HATCHBACK
WILL NOT FIT INDEPENDENT REAR END CARS "99 UP COBRA

FIT: ALL FORD MUSTANG 73-04

Fits: 94-04 Ford mustangs

Eibach Pro Kit Spring Set (79-04 V8 Coupe & 94-04 V6 Convertible)
 

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That pretty much sums it up. It is a great time to change out shocks and struts too.

It is not hard, jsut take your time. You may also need camber/caster plates too so you may want to put those on at the same time to save some aggravation later and also allow for a more aggresive alignment.

Since you have a vert be careful what springs you put on. I used some FMS C-springs. Retty high spring rate, mild drop and I still bottom out and hit the K-brace that is there for the convertible.
 

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peice of cake to replace springs....standard tools, jack and jack stands
for the rear...jack it up, (ass of car) and put stnads somewhere under the the frame rails...I put the jack under the side I worked on, right under the shock mount and jacked it up a bit, kinda took the load off, then unbolt the shock, release jack press., and kick the spring out, pop the new spring in, easy
Same concept for the front,
this is where it may get a little more expensive...good time to replace the shocks and struts while you're under there, and maybe some caster/camber plates to take the negative camber out when you get the new alignment, althoug you may be lucky and not need them. I did with my "c-springs".
prolly the same technique as your old Probe
either way, good luck
 

Adam95GT

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yea doesent seem bad... can you remove the k brace... does it make a difference...??? i was gonna drop her down like 3'' and cut a coil off...

the question i had about the years is basically do all springs fit the vert... because the Eibach Pro Kit Spring Set doesent have 94+ verts listed
 
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Adam95GT said:
yea doesent seem bad... can you remove the k brace... does it make a difference...??? i was gonna drop her down like 3'' and cut a coil off...

the question i had about the years is basically do all springs fit the vert... because the Eibach Pro Kit Spring Set doesent have 94+ verts listed
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cutting coils = talk about a ricer effect just my .02
 

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Its VERY easy. Here you go.
http://www.automodding.com/install-lowering-springs-94-t1449.html
 
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Adam95GT said:
yea doesent seem bad... can you remove the k brace... does it make a difference...??? i was gonna drop her down like 3'' and cut a coil off...

the question i had about the years is basically do all springs fit the vert... because the Eibach Pro Kit Spring Set doesent have 94+ verts listed
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they will fit, but the spring rates are normally higher for the vert to compensate for the extra weight. if you want an agressive drop without cutting coils, take a look at the eibach sportlines. from personal experience, anything lower tan that and you will be dragging the bottom of the car over everything. here are some pics.....


 

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don't go cutting springs, welcome to the big boys man, we buy quality parts not rig up crappy ones.

i agree with the sportlines if you want to go really low. if your doing springs, i would say caster/camber plates are a must before shocks and struts are. without CC plates your alignment will be off and tire wear will become a problem down the road. don't get me wrong, its a good idea to do shocks/struts but all that gets to be pricey.
 

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BTW, you DO NOT want 3". That is WAY too much. I know it may look like it needs to be lowered that much ..... but 2" is more than enough, lol. My H&R's dropped me right at 2" and it was a massive difference.
 

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I have H&R Super Sports and they dropped a "LITTLE" over 2 in in the front. I scrape everywhere. But it looks awesome as hell. If you get a 3 in drop, your tires will be tucked, you will have to cut the fenders, and you will have maybe 2-3 in of ground clearance.

2 in is the MOST I would drop a Mustang.
 

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na i didnt buy crappy parts... i dont cut stock springs... My g/f got me good springs for my birthday and they wernt low enough on the probe so i hacked them up... and if you have seen pics of my probe it was a perfect height and i never bottomed out... but with the stang im thinkign about staying at just 2''
 

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It looks like you're lookin at the Pro Kit. I'd do a search for pics of the Pro kit installed. I have it and IMHO it's about as far as you can go without needing CC plates and some bumpsteer goodies. Were those items not a factor, I'd LOVE to have Sportlines, as mentioned/depicted above. That's just right. I'm sure you can find some old pics of Justin's H&R's too (I'm not familiar with them personally on a stang, but know H&R to be a great product).

I wouldnt sweat the slight weight difference with verts and coupes, given the progressive rate nature of the springs (I'm pretty sure they are progressive, but double check).

Good luck with the decision.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
It looks like you're lookin at the Pro Kit. I'd do a search for pics of the Pro kit installed. I have it and IMHO it's about as far as you can go without needing CC plates and some bumpsteer goodies. Were those items not a factor, I'd LOVE to have Sportlines, as mentioned/depicted above. That's just right. I'm sure you can find some old pics of Justin's H&R's too (I'm not familiar with them personally on a stang, but know H&R to be a great product).

I wouldnt sweat the slight weight difference with verts and coupes, given the progressive rate nature of the springs (I'm pretty sure they are progressive, but double check).

Good luck with the decision.
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I need to get some good pics of my car with my H&R SS.

They go as far as I would want to go. I dont have CC plates, and they guys said that they did my alignemnt said they got one tire dead on and the other one almost dead on. Ive had them for a few months as a daily driver, and have no wear where I shouldnt.
 

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i love my sportlines, you should give them a shot they lowered the car about 2" in front and 1.8" in back...



 

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wow matt those superlites look great! kudos!
 

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Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.

I couldn't believe how much a 1.8-2" drop really improves the stance of the car.

In retrospect, I probably would have made it my first mod.
 

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just picked up a set of sport lines $100 ill have pics in a week or 2. since ill be getting new tires/rims in a month or 2 im not gonna worry about the alignment till then... think i can get way with out using c/c plates??? i hope so....
 

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Adam95GT said:
just picked up a set of sport lines $100 ill have pics in a week or 2. since ill be getting new tires/rims in a month or 2 im not gonna worry about the alignment till then... think i can get way with out using c/c plates??? i hope so....
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I did.

If the alignment guy is good he should be able to get it close if not dead on. I drive my car to school 7 times a week, which is about a 50 mile round trip. I have had the springs for a few months and have no strange wear.
 

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Hef5.0weisen said:
peice of cake to replace springs....standard tools, jack and jack stands
for the rear...jack it up, (ass of car) and put stnads somewhere under the the frame rails...I put the jack under the side I worked on, right under the shock mount and jacked it up a bit, kinda took the load off, then unbolt the shock, release jack press., and kick the spring out, pop the new spring in, easy
Same concept for the front,
this is where it may get a little more expensive...good time to replace the shocks and struts while you're under there, and maybe some caster/camber plates to take the negative camber out when you get the new alignment, althoug you may be lucky and not need them. I did with my "c-springs".
prolly the same technique as your old Probe
either way, good luck
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with the probe i had to pull out the whole shock/strut assemnbly and loosen the bolts off the top and shoot parts down the drive way and go searching....lol
 
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