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Red_LX

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Hopefully this isn't a beat to death topic, but when looking at cars is it better to get one that is complete stock? Is one with a few mods OK if the carfax checks out?

I ask because I found a guy selling an '05 GT about 200 miles from here that I'm VERY interested in. It has 63K on it, and has tinted windows, K&N intake, offroad H pipe, Flowmaster axle back (that I would probably pitch), and black 18" Bullitts with new tires. And the guy is asking $13,000 for it (he actually just lowered the price $750).

I see completely stock cars with similar miles going for at least $1000 MORE than that.

Opinions?
 

1wildGT

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I wouldn't let it stop me. The mods you mentioned are about as basic as you can get.
 

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I agree. A few mods wouldn't scare me off. What really matters is the overall condition of the car. I've purchased both stock and slightly modified Mustangs. It came down to what I was looking for at the time. When I first found my '90 I was happy that it already had a few basics like subframe connectors, strut tower brace & headers. The previous owner took great care of the car.
 
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AlbertaEthan

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I'd say go for it as long as the carfax looks good. Those aren't very intrusive mods so there's nothing to worry about.
 
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Al J

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Doesn't WV require CATS?? There's an expense for you.
 

Red_LX

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Nope...at best they only do a visual inspection for cats, and last time I had taken my Thunderbird in for inspection I had no cats (although there was a flex joint- still don't know if maybe they thought that was a cat) AND I had a cutout on it which I heard was a no-no and they still passed me with no problems.

I was actually more worried about the tint on the car not passing inspection.

Big question right now is whether or not I can get a loan to buy from a private owner...
 

SteedaGT9150

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IMHO when buying a used car stock car > modded car
 

ganador01

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Modified by sub 25 buyer = bad. Modified by 40 something middle aged man = fine. Generally speaking of course.
 

SpartaPerformance

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ganador01 said:
Modified by sub 25 buyer = bad. Modified by 40 something middle aged man = fine. Generally speaking of course.
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+1. It depends on the overall condition and the owner. You can tell a lot about how the owner presents themselves.
 

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Simple bolt ons don't scare me, it's the more involved ones that make me a little uneasy. If the car has say a built short block, or a blower, full suspension, etc, I like to feel out the owner a little.....see if he knows what he's talking about.

If I hear stuff like 500hp in the ad and the car has minimal bolt ons, or I see a bunch a tasteless, gaudy visual enhancements, or see a pile of spelling errors, I run the other way. Even something as simple as someone listing their car as a "Cobra" when it’s just a plain old GT will make me shake my head and skip on by.

I mean hell....if you're going to be asking top dollar for your ride, you had either,

A) damn well better know "exactly" what has been done to it and what you're talking about when you pitch it to me,

B) better not be trying to snow me with promises of high horsepower figures from what is basically a mostly stock car.....because even though you have no idea what you're talking about, I do!!!, or

C) had better have a wallet full of receipts and/or photo's from reputable shops showing what parts are exactly in the car and where they were installed.

All that being said, if the guy is asking an outrageous amount for the vehicle and you do really want it. Take into account. Labor is worth nothing! Just because it cost him "X" number of dollars to have whatever it was installed, he doesn't get the luxury of passing that cost along to you. You eat it...PERIOD!!! It sucks, but that's how it works.

Parts....if they're in good visual condition, they're worth half of the current retail price. I don't care if a guy put a set of iron GT40 heads on his car 7, or 8 years ago when they were going fo $1,200 a pair and thinks they're still worth at least half. A set of fresh GT40's can be had for half of that new now a days. So used ones are only worth only about half of that. Add another $100 to your offer for bolts and gaskets.

in a nutshell though, that's depreciation. Unless it's made of gold, it's not going to hold, or increase in value, so people just need to suck it up!

I've got over $17k into my Cougar XR7. I've had if for sale now for months asking less than half of that and I still can't get any bites. It's a buyer’s market right now, plain and simple. A car is probably the worst investment you can make, so be prepared (if you're a seller) to lose your shirt.
 

Red_LX

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Yeah I know, I just sold my Thunderbird a little while ago. Bought it for $1250 almost 7 years ago, invested at least $4000 during the time I had it, sold it for $2000. Ah what can you do, it put a big chunk of money toward paying off my old personal loan.
 
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