MSD Boost Retard Box..

Guero

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I bought a S/C fox Body.... And it has a MSD box 2 retard timing when its boosting... My question is do I need that or can I tune for it? I would rather not have it and tune for it because the engine bay looks so clusterfobic already.. I was gonna re-wire it 2 a better place but If I can do without it that would be nicer...

 

HISSIN50

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Back the wagon up. You got a Supercharged fox III?
Did I miss the thread on this?
You still have your old stang? Last I heard you wanted a super-400 CI motor...........

Guero said:

I would rather not have it and tune for it because the engine bay looks so clusterfobic already.....

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Intentional or not, that was a great pun. Clusterphobic is a cool word, kinda like craptastic.

How much boost do you run? In general I'd keep the box - even fox III's dont like a lotta' boost, especially when it's over 100*F outside. Toss it inside the car or in the fender if it bothers ya.

And get us some pics of the new stang.

 

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Well I bought this car 2 be my new dd! Ima sell the my Grand Prix get about 1k out of it and stop having a car a payment so I can get 2 work on the 95 alot sooner....Its a 91 GT with a 140k miles on it... All it has is a catback, equal length headers and a Vortec supposably pushing 7lbs..... Ill post pics of it later..... I already bought an upper and lower intake, TB, off road x-pipe, intercooler, boost gauge and a wideband... just waiting for it 2 get here 2 install and after I pass emissions...

I was thinking of doing that and upping the boost 2 12lbs(with a BOV) and stop modding....Whats the most boost these cars can handle? So I have 2 keep the Retard Box?

 

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Interesting idea mang. We look forward to pics.

With boost there are too many factors at hand to throw a number out. You should have forged slugs but otherwise I'd consider things to be about the same in terms of power handling as a 94-95.
Just remember to not start breaking your DD.

I like your idea to keep the box. Otherwise you might end up running locked timing and that kinda sucks (but it's not as bad as it is on 94-95's). If you can tune it, that'd be neat - having a retard module take a crap could really hurt.

 

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Hey Guero, if it's a driver I'd get it over to a tuner to check AFR and maybe get you a "safe" tune as well. No sense in blowing up the driver car, ya know.

The only reason I say to take it in is because of the heat ya'll see and the fact that it is a "new to you" type car. It's money well spent in my opinion.

Wes

 

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I stil have the Grand Prix....Im still driving that... I already ordered a Wideband to check for fuel. I know Im running lean though cuz there is no fuel smell but more like lean smell.... But I will be doing all the bolt ons then tuning it...

 

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Cool, drop your mods on and get it tuned, it's entirely possible to roll a 'charged DD but it's gotta be tuned for those occasions when you need to... umm... merge?

Wes

 

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Yes "merge" lol!!!What should I run at the 1/4 with bolt ons and 7lbs of boost?

 

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I'd say high 12s at 106mph and you are making 335hp at the wheels. How is that for a seat of the pants guess.

Wes

 

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335 hp and only trapping 106!!!!! FTL!!!! LOL!! I better be trapping higher if I can pull those numbers, Otherwise Im gonna have 2 up the boost lol!

 

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Hey you get what you pay for with my guesstimate!

You didn't ask me to estimate the skill (or lack thereof) of the driver!

Wes

 

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How there you question my shift changing skills!!!

 

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Get a dyno tune (or at least spark and AFR) and it will go faster. The gains you get with forced induction are magnified over what you will see N/A. It is amazing what a little timing in the right spots will do.

Wes

 

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I plan on it!!!! Just wana pass emissions first since it still has cats...