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Talking to CS and MT they’re telling me that the bias plys are what I need for my stick car in the street, anyone using them for street driving I’m wondering how they handle corners and highway use, I’m not looking to be able to take off ramps at 90mph but I’d like to know they can handle regular driving.
 

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Ive driven on stiff wall ET drag slicks 60 miles on the highway each way with no issues, also have done it on the old ET streets. The stiff wall ET drag was more stable at speed than the old ET streets were. I have heard good things about the new ET street R's but dont know anyone that has used them with a stick car yet.

I wish they made a 26" tire that fit on a 10" rim. Your best bet for them would be to use tubes and rim screws, both of these things will stiffen the sidewall of the tire and make it less prone to walking around on the highway. As long as you dont drive like a jackass and really watch it on wet pavement you will be fine.
 
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90lxcoupe said:
Ive driven on stiff wall ET drag slicks 60 miles on the highway each way with no issues, also have done it on the old ET streets. The stiff wall ET drag was more stable at speed than the old ET streets were. I have heard good things about the new ET street R's but dont know anyone that has used them with a stick car yet.

I wish they made a 26" tire that fit on a 10" rim. Your best bet for them would be to use tubes and rim screws, both of these things will stiffen the sidewall of the tire and make it less prone to walking around on the highway. As long as you dont drive like a jackass and really watch it on wet pavement you will be fine.
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They did say that if I didn’t feel comfortable using the bias on the street the ET street R radials are the next best thing because they don’t have steel belts so there’s a little more softness to the sidewall
 

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That's the problem with the ET street bias,nothing for a 10'' wheel.
I use Hoosier Quick Time Pro's (dot bias) on the street,no problems at all.
They have 26,27 and 28x11.50 x15,10 inch tread,and 27 x10.50,9 inch tread.
 

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Gear grabber said:
That's the problem with the ET street bias,nothing for a 10'' wheel.
I use Hoosier Quick Time Pro's (dot bias) on the street,no problems at all.
They have 26,27 and 28x11.50 x15,10 inch tread,and 27 x10.50,9 inch tread.
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The 28" Et street R will fit with a 10" wheel
 

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I have the MT ET Street R bias and have run them on the street at 26psi. No issues whatsoever... A5 trans, 4.56 gear bla bla...
Having said that, I'm 50yrs old and my hot-dogging days are long behind me... So, as far as driving like a law abiding citizen, and taking corners in the same manner as 99.9% of the other folks commuting along the road... they are absolutely fine.
Now... I have these tires for the track, but have been lazy in changing them from time to time and have ended up driving on the street with them, and, have driven to/from the track on them.
90% of the time, on the street, it wears bfg radials up front and the ET Street s/s radials on the rear... not sure your power level or what you are looking for, but that s/s has a lot of "street" traction.

What are you wanting to do with the tire?

@RangerJoe runs the R bias as well (stick car)... maybe he will chime in.
 

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90lxcoupe said:
The 28" Et street R will fit with a 10" wheel
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Yes it will,but tread width is only 8.7''.
Right now I have a little Hoosier 27x10.50 QTP on the car (9'' tread 10 '' rim) have to run 18 lb on the street
to keep it from pogoing under power. Can't wait to get a 27x11.50 back on the car.
 

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Yes it will,but tread width is only 8.7''.
Right now I have a little Hoosier 27x10.50 QTP on the car (9'' tread 10 '' rim) have to run 18 lb on the street
to keep it from pogoing under power. Can't wait to get a 27x11.50 back on the car.
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that is the 26", there are two 28" sizes
 

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That is a 28'' . The other 28 has a 12.6'' section width, I don't think it will fit on a fox.
 
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cleanLX said:
I have the MT ET Street R bias and have run them on the street at 26psi. No issues whatsoever... A5 trans, 4.56 gear bla bla...
Having said that, I'm 50yrs old and my hot-dogging days are long behind me... So, as far as driving like a law abiding citizen, and taking corners in the same manner as 99.9% of the other folks commuting along the road... they are absolutely fine.
Now... I have these tires for the track, but have been lazy in changing them from time to time and have ended up driving on the street with them, and, have driven to/from the track on them.
90% of the time, on the street, it wears bfg radials up front and the ET Street s/s radials on the rear... not sure your power level or what you are looking for, but that s/s has a lot of "street" traction.

What are you wanting to do with the tire?

@RangerJoe runs the R bias as well (stick car)... maybe he will chime in.
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Pretty much what you’re describing is what I’m looking to do, I’ve actually decided to go with the radials. didn’t realize the radials are a 26” and bias are 28”. I was told by MT though that the street R radial has more hooking power for a stick car due to the fact that the belts aren’t steel, I’m planning on 550ish at the flywheel through a T56
 

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Mine are actually the older ET Street bias ply, not the newer r's. They drive fine on dry surfaces, but Don't expect to get but a few hundred miles out of them on the streets.

Joe
 

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Interested in stick 26 and 28" street tires and optimal stick tires for the track. I'm still planning on dropping to 15" wheels for the track and 17s on the street.
 

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Sk8trfred said:
Pretty much what you’re describing is what I’m looking to do, I’ve actually decided to go with the radials. didn’t realize the radials are a 26” and bias are 28”. I was told by MT though that the street R radial has more hooking power for a stick car due to the fact that the belts aren’t steel, I’m planning on 550ish at the flywheel through a T56
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MT told you a radial would be better than a bias... or the radial R would be better than the radial s/s?
I find it very odd that MT would tell you a radial would provide a stick car better hooking power than the bias, when the bias is designed specifically for clutch cars...

The Bias R can be had in 26". It has a section width of 10.4 and would certainly work well on an 10" wheel. Mine are mouted to an 8" wheel and the first thing a few dedicated racers commented to me was "you should have that on a 10" wheel"... DOH.

As far as optimal track tire for a stick car... a stiff wall slick is the ticket.
If you are going to drive on the street, you're looking at ET Street R (bias) the the Hoosier QTP. You'll find lovers of both... Neither is suited to any wet conditions at all... a slight sprinkle that leaves the road looking dry will be a nightmare... been there, got caught in a "sun-shower" once. Scary stuff at 70mph... once I got off the freeway even city speeds were like driving on hardpacked snow.
When the R first came out some guys switched over from the QTP and were very happy... but, new rubber...so... gain of salt stuff.
 
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When I went and talked to the techs at MT they had no tires in 26" for a 10" wide rim. Made my choice for Hoosiers really easy then.
 
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cleanLX said:
MT told you a radial would be better than a bias... or the radial R would be better than the radial s/s?
I find it very odd that MT would tell you a radial would provide a stick car better hooking power than the bias, when the bias is designed specifically for clutch cars...

The Bias R can be had in 26". It has a section width of 10.4 and would certainly work well on an 10" wheel. Mine are mouted to an 8" wheel and the first thing a few dedicated racers commented to me was "you should have that on a 10" wheel"... DOH.

As far as optimal track tire for a stick car... a stiff wall slick is the ticket.
If you are going to drive on the street, you're looking at ET Street R (bias) the the Hoosier QTP. You'll find lovers of both... Neither is suited to any wet conditions at all... a slight sprinkle that leaves the road looking dry will be a nightmare... been there, got caught in a "sun-shower" once. Scary stuff at 70mph... once I got off the freeway even city speeds were like driving on hardpacked snow.
When the R first came out some guys switched over from the QTP and were very happy... but, new rubber...so... gain of salt stuff.
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They said the street R radial is better than the S/S, not as good as the bias but better than the S/S because they don’t use steel belts. I’m looking to run 17” wheels so my options are limited. This is mainly going to be a weekend cruiser I may get a dedicated track set later on though
 

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Gear grabber said:
That is a 28'' . The other 28 has a 12.6'' section width, I don't think it will fit on a fox.
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The 28x12.5 is smaller than a 275/60 pro radial, it will fit on a fox. Shifter, a member of other forums confirmed this and ran that tire on his 10.0 index car.

cleanLX said:
The Bias R can be had in 26". It has a section width of 10.4 and would certainly work well on an 10" wheel. Mine are mouted to an 8" wheel and the first thing a few dedicated racers commented to me was "you should have that on a 10" wheel"... DOH.
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Ive seen the 26x10.5 on a 8" wheel and judging off of that i wouldnt put them on a 10" wheel unless it was a beadlock. I would bet they look pretty stretched out on a 10" rim

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Interested in stick 26 and 28" street tires and optimal stick tires for the track. I'm still planning on dropping to 15" wheels for the track and 17s on the street.
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If it is a tire only for the track, the 3053s or 3055s mickey thompson ET drag is what will work best. Clutch selection will also really effect how the tire works or doesnt work.
 

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That car is mini tubbd.
 

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Sk8trfred said:
They said the street R radial is better than the S/S, not as good as the bias but better than the S/S because they don’t use steel belts. I’m looking to run 17” wheels so my options are limited. This is mainly going to be a weekend cruiser I may get a dedicated track set later on though
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Thanks for the clarification.
Very happy with the s/s on the street, but, I don't make a lot of power, and what power I do make isn't down low in the rpm range... I can go flat to the floor in 1st (2.95) and even with the 4.56's it'll boogie... wiggles a bit but doesn't spin. Had BFG dr's previously and could obliterate them from a roll in 2nd... so, big step up in traction.
Hope the R radial works well for you.
 
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Back ttt.

When I was interested before, it was for Father Time, and I did end up with the MT stiffwall 28"x11.5W , on 15" beadlock wheels. Still don't have any real seat time, but that's about to change. Father Time is basically ready to go, and I'm hoping to get it out on those tires, this year.

Now, I'm trying to make the best of a compromised situation in Black Jack, my daily, and my searching brought me back to this thread.

The gist of it is:
- tall 2.66 1st gear with 3.73s for a tall starting line ratio of 9.92:1. Far from ideal for drag, but awesome for street and autocross. Wish I had the 2.97 1st ratio, but I'm set with what I've got.
- Ram Powergrip street clutch
- Street/autocross stockish suspension. UCAs are adjustable, and the Koni DA shocks can be tuned but aren't drag-oriented.
- Car should make around 400rwhp on a 150 shot. Ran 12.04@114mph on an untuned 100 shot. Nitrous is currently on a WOT switch and a Window switch from 3500 - 6300.
- best 60' on Nittos and a heavily slipped clutch was 1.86. This is a 5k+ RPM launch to keep it from bogging.

I’m looking at a 26x10-ish ET Drag bias slick (3053 or 3053S). The question is softwall vs stiffwall. I am not looking for radial suggestions. They're both 26x15 tires, but it turns out that the Stiffwall "S" has a diameter of 26.5, whereas the softwall is a true 26" tire.

The normal advice seems to be that stick cars, heavier cars, and nitrous cars usually want a stiffwall because it controls sidewall wrap, gives a quicker reaction, and keeps the tire from becoming a big uncontrolled spring. I understand that logic.

Where I’m hung up is that I think my car may be different because of the tall starting-line gearing. With the 2.66 first gear and 3.73 rear, I don’t have a lot of mechanical advantage leaving the line. To make the car leave hard, I think it is probably going to want a lot of launch RPM and a fairly aggressive clutch release. Not necessarily a lazy clutch slip. More of a high-RPM, aggressive hit to keep the engine from getting pulled down.

That makes me wonder if the softwall slick may actually be the better match for this specific type of stick car. My thought is that the softwall could absorb some more of that aggressive clutch hit, keep the engine from getting dragged down as hard, and maybe recover better if the tire hazes or spins slightly. In other words, the tire may need to act as part of the shock absorber because the gearing, clutch, and suspension are not doing me any favors.
 
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wonder how much it would cost to ship you a pair
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Too bad you can't try each one at the strip and compare the action/reaction. Be nice to find someone with wheels/tires that would help with the decision, prolly not a inexpensive endeavor.
My inexperienced/cartoon mind says a soft sidewall would be my first choice.
 
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