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Cata893

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Can anyone help me? I bought 04 convertible mustang that had front damage, fixed it bought airbags from 98 mustang on ebay and new module. Installed everything, but airbag light flashes code 35 and stays on. Any Suggestions will be helpful. Also need to take the car to DMV for inspection.

35 - Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted.
 

Mike97gt

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Could be a bad air bag you got there. Best way to test this and safest is with the air bag simulators we have at the dealer. These things plug into the harness and then you let the system self test and if you still have a hard fault then you know your problem is in the harness or module.

Do you have any friends at the dealer If so here is the special tool number for the simulator. 418-F088

If you can not get this tool you can skip that step and this may help..

First disconnect the battery and wait several minutes then disconnect the passenger side air bag.

Then

measure resistance between LB/OG wire HARNESS SIDE and PK/BK HARNESS SIDE with the air bag disconnected and the BATTERY CABLES DISCONNECTED... NEVER EVER EVER test a air bag circuit live if you do so you may end up with a air bag in the face

If it's less than 10k ohms then you have a problem on this circuit disconnect the RCM and check it again and see if it then goes over 10k.

If it's more than 10k ohms your problem is either the RCM or the air bag and I can't help you after that if you don't have the simulator.
 

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I don't have any body at dealer. But i think i did something stupid dough. I connected the driver air bag and module totally forgotten about the passenger and have connected the battery. i also did this just in case i get it wrong so that i don't get both air bags blown. If this stored the code in module and after i reinstalled the passenger air bag, would the code erase it's self or it will be stored in the module until deleted with scanner?

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Cata893 said:
I don't have any body at dealer. But i think i did something stupid dough. I connected the driver air bag and module totally forgotten about the passenger and have connected the battery. i also did this just in case i get it wrong so that i don't get both air bags blown. If this stored the code in module and after i reinstalled the passenger air bag, would the code erase it's self or it will be stored in the module until deleted with scanner?

Thanks
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the code will erase itself once whatever is causing the fault is fixed
 

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Cata893 said:
Can anyone help me? I bought 04 convertible mustang that had front damage, fixed it bought airbags from 98 mustang on ebay and new module. Installed everything, but airbag light flashes code 35 and stays on. Any Suggestions will be helpful. Also need to take the car to DMV for inspection.

35 - Passenger Side Air Bag Circuit Low Resistance or Shorted.
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1999 up bags and monitor are different than 1998, I dont think it's gonna' work.
 

Mike97gt

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RandyStinchcomb said:
1999 up bags and monitor are different than 1998, I dont think it's gonna' work.
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I was thinking that too, but I don't have anyway to check parts myself and I was not going to bother our parts manager and waste his time on a car I am not working on.
 
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yeah it is actually a total different system from 04 to 98. 04 model has the sensors integral in the restraint control module where a 98 has crash sensors mounted on front of vehicle.

After a little further research I found that 98 takes a different simulator than the 04 model for diagnosis, so this tells me that the resistance values are different or the connectors are different. I would be really careful there. I set off the air bags in one before accidently. I tied a module in one from another vehicle that was just 2 year models different, what I got was a skinned up face and ruined a perfectly good set of underwear.
 

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Thanks guys for the help, but i'm using the driver side airbag from same model mustang, which is 98 and doesn't trow me any codes for that bag. I did change connectors on the bag from old bags to the new since they are different. Checked it twice, connectors seem to be fine. I'm going to take out the bag and see if i'm going to get different code. this way i'll be for sure that it's a bag or module. i appreciate all you help. thanks
 

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chuck943 said:
what I got was a skinned up face and ruined a perfectly good set of underwear.
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Mike, I agree but I wasn't about to touch that one TMI....TMI for me
 
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Mike, I agree but I wasn't about to touch that one TMI....TMI for me
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Yeah it was pretty funny after it happened. I will never forget that, it was a 90 model Tempo with the old blue box module in it. I had gone thru all the pin-point test which for those year models wasn't to much to them any how. Well I had got to the point where it says to try a known good module. Didn't have one in stock of course so I get the bright idea to try one out of a 92 model we had on the lot. I plugged it in then I turn on the igntion switch and hear this loud buzz for just a split sec, as I was saying to myself oh Sh** about the same time I hear a loud bang. The tech in the stall next to me started grabbing his chest and calling Elizabeth, I think it scared him more than it did me.
 

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Yeah it was pretty funny after it happened. I will never forget that, it was a 90 model Tempo with the old blue box module in it. I had gone thru all the pin-point test which for those year models wasn't to much to them any how. Well I had got to the point where it says to try a known good module. Didn't have one in stock of course so I get the bright idea to try one out of a 92 model we had on the lot. I plugged it in then I turn on the igntion switch and hear this loud buzz for just a split sec, as I was saying to myself oh Sh** about the same time I hear a loud bang. The tech in the stall next to me started grabbing his chest and calling Elizabeth, I think it scared him more than it did me.
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that's some funny ****. My buddy was cleaning 92 Mercedes-Benz just as he put his hand on the steering wheel that thing deployed knacked him right in the face, didn't see anything funnier than that. the bag deployed by it's self.
 
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