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Build Thread My 1986 T-top Build - Lasting Memories

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Davedacarpainter

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In case y'all didn't know, high strength steel will positively EAT through some cut off wheels. I think I went through about nine wheels to cut out my frame reinforcements from that Tahoe frame. FYI:zombie:
 

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Davedacarpainter said:
In case y'all didn't know, high strength steel will positively EAT through some cut off wheels. I think I went through about nine wheels to cut out my frame reinforcements from that Tahoe frame. FYI:zombie:
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Yeah.. I like the plasma cutter.
 
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K, found a use for my new press. I'm going to rebuild my T5 myself. @Boosted92LX , got tips for me on this one? Various bearings, can I do the same thing?

I'll start this probably in about a month, maybe less.

For now, paint tomorrow!
 
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This morning marks a semi-historic moment for me. I did NOTHING to Doby, just sat here on my butt reading about rebuilding a t5.
 
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It seems like your plans get more and more ambitious every week! By the time you're done I'll be able to use this thread as a reference for anything I'd want to do on a fox. Haha. Seriously though, I'm liking the progress man. You're doing a great job.

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skyline247 said:
It seems like your plans get more and more ambitious every week! By the time you're done I'll be able to use this thread as a reference for anything I'd want to do on a fox. Haha. Seriously though, I'm liking the progress man. You're doing a great job.

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Thanks brother, I've been waiting for paint for a while now.

My manager wanted me to wait till now to bring it to the shop, which worked out for sure with the engine bay smoothing.

Don't let @RaggedGT confuse you, I'll be fitting 315's under Doby's rear. I'm going to do a two inch mini-tubbing just to give plenty of room to tuck those tires up under the 1/4's.

I've got some neat (maybe not original) ideas to rework the suspension for this.

I'll start getting after that next week, bunches of cutting and welding.

THEN, I'll finally start putting some of my new parts on the car!

It'll finally be a "build" thread, instead of a tear down and cut up thread! Yay!
 
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Davedacarpainter said:
K, found a use for my new press. I'm going to rebuild my T5 myself. @Boosted92LX , got tips for me on this one? Various bearings, can I do the same thing?

I'll start this probably in about a month, maybe less.

For now, paint tomorrow!
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Can't help you with transmissions brother. Only part of a car I haven't learned to do myself. Maybe you can teach me on this one.
 
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Can't help you with transmissions brother. Only part of a car I haven't learned to do myself. Maybe you can teach me on this one.
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You'll get a chance to learn from my mistakes!

I'll post pictures when I do that. I have to buy my coil overs next, then I'll get the rebuild kit and my new driveshaft.
 

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Black magic happens inside of a transmission... I only touch the bolts that hold it to the motor, lol. I usually tell myself to stay in my own lane when it comes to voodoo and black magic
 
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stykthyn

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I've rebuilt several 5 speeds. @Mustang5L5 has as well. Best advice is to make sure all the gears are in the neutral position when putting it back together. It's a kick in the sack to get one together just to find out its locked into gear and has to come apart again.
 
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I've rebuilt several 5 speeds. @Mustang5L5 has as well. Best advice is to make sure all the gears are in the neutral position when putting it back together. It's a kick in the sack to get one together just to find out its locked into gear and has to come apart again.
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I'd really like to learn. Funny, but I've never had any coaching on building one. I helped a guy tear down the T5 in my boy's car, but didn't get to watch him build it. I looked at the stack of parts after it was scattered and had no clue where anything went. But, once you learn, it's no big deal. I had a machine at work scattered one day and someone asked me how the hell i was gonna get it back together... I replied that when you can identify every part and know exactly where it goes, it's a simple as stacking blocks. I just need to learn where all the blocks in a 5 speed go i guess..
 
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It looks more complicated than it is. Best layman's advice is to stack each set of blocks in its own pile. Label what's what. It all looks the same after its apart. there are some really good videos on YouTube and there are dozens of tutorials on the web. Watch a few and after you get the case cracked open you will actually recognize what you are looking at.
 
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stykthyn said:
It looks more complicated than it is. Best layman's advice is to stack each set of blocks in its own pile. Label what's what. It all looks the same after its apart. there are some really good videos on YouTube and there are dozens of tutorials on the web. Watch a few and after you get the case cracked open you will actually recognize what you are looking at.
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I'll do that. Thanks.
 

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Davedacarpainter said:
Don't let @RaggedGT confuse you, I'll be fitting 315's under Doby's rear.Even though 335's where completely my idea and a notion I brought up,and it just so happened that Chris aka RaggedGT thought it was a Great idea and really liked my Go Big mindset since I am cutting up the tubs and altering the suspension anyways I'm going to do a two inch mini-tubbing just to give plenty of room to tuck those tires up under the 1/4's.
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Once again Dave.... Fixt......
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See http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/onlineorder/product.asp to download a FREE service manual for T5 or Tremec 3550/TKO
You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – http://get.adobe.com/reader/

See http://www.hanlonmotorsports.com/ or http://www.ddperformance.com for parts

A T5 rebuild kit with syncros, bearings and other small parts costs about $160-$200. It does not include any gears or shafts.

http://www.hanlonmotorsports.com/ also has a video on how to rebuild your T5 or Tremec. It costs about $20, and is worth every penny of it.

I did a Tremec 3550 rebuild, and it wasn't that difficult. The video was an immense help, and I would recommend viewing it. At $20, it will give you an opportunity to look and decide for yourself if you think that it is something you want to try to do.

Alternate sources for the T5 rebuild video...
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...30j0i22i30.0.0.0.9710...........0.Mz886XmDDt4

T5 Shim kits – best product I have seen in a while… http://www.5speeds.com/t5/shims.html
“The Peel ‘n Place T5 World Class shim kit makes shimming T5 counter gear and main drive gears very easy.”
 
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Boosted92LX said:
I'd really like to learn. Funny, but I've never had any coaching on building one. I helped a guy tear down the T5 in my boy's car, but didn't get to watch him build it. I looked at the stack of parts after it was scattered and had no clue where anything went. But, once you learn, it's no big deal. I had a machine at work scattered one day and someone asked me how the hell i was gonna get it back together... I replied that when you can identify every part and know exactly where it goes, it's a simple as stacking blocks. I just need to learn where all the blocks in a 5 speed go i guess..
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It looks harder than it is.

Here's your instruction manual. Print it out, put it in the bathroom and read it for a few weeks. It will all make sense.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/techarticles/t5rebuildmanual.pdf
 
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jrichker said:
See http://www.ttcautomotive.com/English/onlineorder/product.asp to download a FREE service manual for T5 or Tremec 3550/TKO
You will need the Adobe Acrobat viewer which is also a free download – http://get.adobe.com/reader/

See http://www.hanlonmotorsports.com/ or http://www.ddperformance.com for parts

A T5 rebuild kit with syncros, bearings and other small parts costs about $160-$200. It does not include any gears or shafts.

http://www.hanlonmotorsports.com/ also has a video on how to rebuild your T5 or Tremec. It costs about $20, and is worth every penny of it.

I did a Tremec 3550 rebuild, and it wasn't that difficult. The video was an immense help, and I would recommend viewing it. At $20, it will give you an opportunity to look and decide for yourself if you think that it is something you want to try to do.

Alternate sources for the T5 rebuild video...
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=T%+rebuild+video&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLS_enUS531US531&q=t-5+transmission+rebuild+video&gs_l=hp..1.0i22i10i30j0i22i30.0.0.0.9710...........0.Mz886XmDDt4

T5 Shim kits – best product I have seen in a while… http://www.5speeds.com/t5/shims.html
“The Peel ‘n Place T5 World Class shim kit makes shimming T5 counter gear and main drive gears very easy.”
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Thank you sir, I'll probably buy that video.
 

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Mustang5L5 said:
It looks harder than it is.

Here's your instruction manual. Print it out, put it in the bathroom and read it for a few weeks. It will all make sense.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/techarticles/t5rebuildmanual.pdf
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Thanks man!
 

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Here we go again! On the trailer for a date with the paint booth!

Tomorrow, engine bay and cowl area. Saturday, the rest!!!
 
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stykthyn said:
I've rebuilt several 5 speeds. @Mustang5L5 has as well. Best advice is to make sure all the gears are in the neutral position when putting it back together. It's a kick in the sack to get one together just to find out its locked into gear and has to come apart again.
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I will remember that, thank you!
 
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