my slow 98 needs help

fast4cheap · Jan 26, 2007

I am now the proud owner of a 98 GT but i am used to the power of my 5.0s i want to modify the car but only want to spend money on modifications that work, whats the best bang for my buck modifications that really work.

Texstang9682 · Jan 26, 2007

Well, You can do a PI intake for around 175-200 dollars and that will net you a good gain. Headers are a good gain but are a PITA to install. Otherwise just the basic bolt ons will work like pulleys, TB, upper plenum, and gears for sure. I know how you feel I have a 96 and my foxbody stroker moter engine is miles away faster than the 96. Hope that helps.

Dope 97GT · Jan 26, 2007

just do a full pi swap and get a nice set of heads and cams with a tb/plenun and intake and gears, shifter and xcal2 and you should be pretty well set up. Mid pipe and catback also

If i were to do it again thats all the mods i would start with.

fast4cheap · Jan 26, 2007

dont you haft to use spacers for the PI swap, I thougt of that the only kit I find to do this is about 700$

Dope 97GT · Jan 26, 2007

you can find a full kit for everything you need to do a full H/C/I PI swap from a couple places...someone will know.

but by far i believe that is the best thing you can do for a 96-98 stang...boltons are just a waste of time on these cars otherwise. I know i have them all and my 97 is still slow.

kanye west · Jan 27, 2007

I have a 98 gt and i cant say that it has all been a waste because it is a hell of a lot faster than when i first got it. It ran 15.10 when i got it and now it goes 13.7. All of this is with bolt ons.

COramprat · Jan 27, 2007

Cams and gears were the two best mods I did.

RedDaemon · Jan 27, 2007

ive wondered this:

technically speaking shouldnt the 98 and below 4.6s be a little faster with a full pi swap than a 99+ due to a higher compression? i am talking just boltons...dont go into F/I

Dope 97GT · Jan 27, 2007

kanye west said:
I have a 98 gt and i cant say that it has all been a waste because it is a hell of a lot faster than when i first got it. It ran 15.10 when i got it and now it goes 13.7. All of this is with bolt ons.

yeah mine is a lot faster than stock as well with boltons but it is still just about as fast as a stock PI stang.

-=NightHawk=- said:
ive wondered this:

technically speaking shouldnt the 98 and below 4.6s be a little faster with a full pi swap than a 99+ due to a higher compression? i am talking just boltons...dont go into F/I

and yes a PI swap should put you above the stock horsepower of a 99-04 PI car.

fast4cheap · Jan 27, 2007

I konw I got to do something, I got waxed by a girl on a automatic 05 today, I would like the pI swap but I dont know how hard it is to do. I would love to just do the bolt ons, i already have some 3.55s ready to install, are under drive pullies effective on the 4.6 and what kind do i need to be able to use a timing adjuster, and i sure wish it would pull above 5000 rpm

d98gt · Jan 27, 2007

Check out the local boards and try to find you a set of PI cams and pi intake

For example--I bought my BRAND NEW pi cams for $100 on a local forum.

The intake price depends on which method you want to try. MANY guys go the RTV method to seal the ports which requires that you just get the intake.

There are a few companies which offer a ktiw ith adaptor plates to make the process easier. Livernois sells the entire kit with everything needed for $499 http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product.phtml?p=457

fast97gt · Jan 27, 2007

i dont no about pi swap but i got all the stuff done on my ride and smoked an 05, 06, gt's and a lot of the older fox bods. now my bro has a 91 and is pretty dang baddd and can hang w/ him. he has cam and intake cai and 355s and hd clutch so before doin pi stuff witch i heard can be upwards of a couple grand. do some simple bolt ons and i dont no bout you but i got a 150 wet shot im gonna istall in a month or so i was told that i can do that w/o a tune as long as its a wet shot not a dry one so good luck
p.s. i can hag w/ an c-6 no mods up to about a hundred and deff. go with a lower gear like a 373s 410s if your a 5spd though

d98gt · Jan 27, 2007

A pi swap isn't going to be a couple of grand even if you did get screwed on the install

I'm skipping the heads part of the pi swap due to the price of install for heads. I have a quote of $375 to install the cams and can do the intake myself.

Rough estimate: $650-$750 with install, $275-$325 without.
PI cams: 100
Parts for Cams (bolts + gaskets): $40
PI intake: Haven't picked up as of yet though see them for sale quite often ~100
Parts: $50?
Install: $375

d98gt · Jan 27, 2007

Fast97, how much money do you have in savings? If you go about spraying a wet 150 without a tune (or even with) you'll be in search of a new motor. I don't see the car taking many hits of that sort of dope for long.

player4lifeov · Jan 27, 2007

I have a set of pi cams with pressed gears on. I'll let em go for 100.

fast4cheap · Jan 27, 2007

nitrous is out of the question after grenading my 93 gts block I removed the kit and wish some one would buy it. I wish it were just a little quicker so it could hold its own, to go really fast I jump into one of my 5.0 cars, however it may not be quick it does have a great top end, and is a very smooth car to drive, its strong from 3000 to 5000 I really like it I am just used to the ease of getting power from its pushrod predecessor. I know nothing about the 4.6. so all info is appreciated.

svtpower · Jan 27, 2007

gears

Get a set of 4.10 gears in that thing.

That's the best bang for your buck.

Pennywise2 · Jan 27, 2007

Your car is a slow and heavy POS that's why I sold my mustang.
Their is no help for your 98 GT sell it asap.

mrvax · Jan 27, 2007

fast4cheap said:
I am now the proud owner of a 98 GT but i am used to the power of my 5.0s i want to modify the car but only want to spend money on modifications that work, whats the best bang for my buck modifications that really work.

Read my sig. I have ~ 250rwhp ~290tq and it has run a 13.7.

mrvax · Jan 27, 2007

Pennywise2 said:
Your car is a slow and heavy POS that's why I sold my mustang.
Their is no help for your 98 GT sell it asap.

If you have a small winkie and are not interested in picking up girls, you will enjoy your Subaru. Good luck with it.

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