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GT2000JAY

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toke said:
I can certainly appreciate the hard work that goes into building a fast n/a car but to say that just slapping on a supercharger is easy is a little far fetched and kind of a blind statement.

As someone else has said already, take a quick spin in a blown car and you might think twice. Hopefully the people that say being blown is "the easy way" aren't just saying it because they can't afford it (not saying anyone is btw). That would be sad.
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There is a big difference between taking a spin in a supercharged 4.6 and building a supercharged 4.6. Face the facts: If you want N/A power there is a great deal more preparation, thought and work that goes into developing power than there is with a blower. 300 N/A RWHP will take a lot more dedication and effort than 350 F/I RWHP.

You are right that you don't "slap a blower on". It all takes some level of expertise and work. However, building a strong N/A mustang is a lot more time and resource intensive than adding forced induction. Look at it this way: You can do all of the N/A modifications, including shortblock, and make 300-320 RWHP. What will those same modifications with a supercharger make? 400-450, maybe 500??? That right there should tell you something.

Nothing is simple when looking at serious modifications, but tapping the oil pan, improving the fuel system, and adding forced induction is NOT as complex as swapping heads, cams or shortblock.

Again, just my humble opinion.

Jay
 

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GT2000JAY said:
There is a big difference between taking a spin in a supercharged 4.6 and building a supercharged 4.6. Face the facts: If you want N/A power there is a great deal more preparation, thought and work that goes into developing power than there is with a blower. 300 N/A RWHP will take a lot more dedication and effort than 350 F/I RWHP.

You are right that you don't "slap a blower on". It all takes some level of expertise and work. However, building a strong N/A mustang is a lot more time and resource intensive than adding forced induction. Look at it this way: You can do all of the N/A modifications, including shortblock, and make 300-320 RWHP. What will those same modifications with a supercharger make? 400-450, maybe 500??? That right there should tell you something.

Nothing is simple when looking at serious modifications, but tapping the oil pan, improving the fuel system, and adding forced induction is NOT as complex as swapping heads, cams or shortblock.

Again, just my humble opinion.

Jay
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You just said exactly what I said in my post you quoted lol. Both require effort and the owners of each type of car should be proud.
 

03trubluGT

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We all know N/A cars are slow and just plain suck.

For proof, look here:

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=476733



























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Impressive numbers, no doubt, but now your'e talking a built motor which is something the thread starter seems to be trying to stay away from so the cost gets a little out of hand for him. I read where some guy made 600 rwhp with stock heads and intake recently (blower, of course) so I guess you can see potential either way. Definately shows what can be done all motor though.
 

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The thing with N/A is the cost and the resulting HP. You can build as shown above a fast N/A car but, its not street legal and has some amenities out of it. For those seeking power and street legality are left with a S/C car. The next question would be how much street legal power could be made with a blown car? Thats with the stock H-pipe, and smog legal shorties.
 

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the modification process is never ending.. i thought i would install a supercharger, exhaust, tune and be done with it.... haha yea right
 
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Huskerpower05 said:
Hey everyone, i'm new to this site but i was wondering what be the best choice for some extra hp for a 95 GT. Not much done so far, upper/lower saleen intake, 70mm throttle body, intake, dumped flowmaster exhaust system. at around 240rwhp, im looking to hit 285-290 by next year, any ideas?
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I would say get some used PI Heads and cams with a PI-Intake. That will give you the boost you need and at a good price. Oh may bad I see you have a Intake so for get that part
 
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T & J Performance offers the Mongoose kit (Vortech SQ-Trim by Steeda, with all the accessoriers) for $3950. I got an e-mail from them and they can do the installation for $550, but I would need to make a pilgrimage to Georgia. They are also able to calibrate for my 4.10s. The total cost would be $4500, including a dyno tune. On the bulletin board of Modular Ford Powerhouse (the website for T & J Performance), they have a thread listing the horsepower gains from the Mongoose kit. With my mods, I would be looking at 400-420 rwhp. For about the same price, I could have the heads polished and ported (new valves, springs, locks, retainers) and custom cams installed and be around 300 rwhp. What should I do?
 

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01mgvert said:
T & J Performance offers the Mongoose kit (Vortech SQ-Trim by Steeda, with all the accessoriers) for $3950. I got an e-mail from them and they can do the installation for $550, but I would need to make a pilgrimage to Georgia. They are also able to calibrate for my 4.10s. The total cost would be $4500, including a dyno tune. On the bulletin board of Modular Ford Powerhouse (the website for T & J Performance), they have a thread listing the horsepower gains from the Mongoose kit. With my mods, I would be looking at 400-420 rwhp. For about the same price, I could have the heads polished and ported (new valves, springs, locks, retainers) and custom cams installed and be around 300 rwhp. What should I do?
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Caught between a sweat and a fart ehh. See the third post of the thread. This is probably the only disheartening part of owning this car. It all depends on what you plan on doing with the car. Keeping it for a while, or possibly waiting for a new SVT in 06-07.
 
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