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Need a 22 gallon EFI fuel tank w/surge

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If I want to spend $1500 I could get a Fuel Safe fuel cell. If I was racing, I might consider it. Otherwise, I'd like to find a solution as far under $1000 as I can get.

With my stock 22 gallon tank I expect fuel cavitation problems if under a 1/4 tank. I haven't been able to find a shop to modify my stock tank with baffles, or a surge tank. The usual excuse is liability concerns. If anyone has a source for a a reasonably priced classic Mustang fuel cell with the EFI goodies, I'd appreciate hearing about it.

I recall someone on here recently had a link to a site where they built their own. I've lost the link, but please re-post if you see this. I also plan to check out a place called AutoWorks in El Cajon, CA which offers EFI tanks. Maybe something custom...
 
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Is this the link you are referring to:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hertzshelby66/album?.dir=/6fdb&.src=ph&.tok=phlDf7BBBYP.1kvG

You could do something similar yourself. I just looked at a lot of factory setups in the junk yard and then got a new tank and started creating.
 
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Ronstang said:
Is this the link you are referring to:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/hertzshelby66/album?.dir=/6fdb&.src=ph&.tok=phlDf7BBBYP.1kvG

You could do something similar yourself. I just looked at a lot of factory setups in the junk yard and then got a new tank and started creating.
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Jeez, nice work. How much time do you have into this? I'll be using an external fuel pump, so my in-tank setup does not need to be so elaborate. I've got a Ron Morris Performance EFI sending unit. I really just need a surge box around it, and then cut an opening into the tank to mount it. With the right setup, I doubt I'll need a sump.
 
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I did an EFI tank for an 86 Bronco I helped a friend with. We took a baffle/surge box out of the tank of a 90 Mustang I had laying around, cut a square hole in the top of the tank, welded the baffel/surge box to the bottom of the tank so the fuel pickup was inside it, and then closed the top of the tank back up. It has been working with no leaks for over 2 years and this thing can now go near vertical while 4 wheeling. You could do this in your application in an afternoon if you have all the tools.
 
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Ronstang said:
...We took a baffle/surge box out of the tank of a 90 Mustang I had laying around, cut a square hole in the top of the tank, welded the baffel/surge box to the bottom of the tank so the fuel pickup was inside it, and then closed the top of the tank back up. It has been working with no leaks for over 2 years...
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That's more like it. If I recall, the sending unit on this '70 tank is at the bottom front. Where did you locate the surge box in relation to the stock sending unit entrance? Do you happen to have pictures? Thanks.
 
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I don't have pictures, sorry. Each application is different and you will have to work with what you have. If you have a sending unit/pickup tube then you can make a bos the fits at the bottom of the tank with the pickup inside of it. You can use my box as an idea of what you need. Make sure that the return line also dumps into the surge box as this is what guarantees that it will always have fuel in it.
 
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you caould talk to the guys at rock valley as well. they specialize in fuel tanks for EFI conversions. not sure how much they cost but with the price of the fuel safe cells it's worth giving them a call. here is their website

http://www.rockvalleyantiqueautoparts.com/products.htm

edit: i beleive the mustang/cougar would be considered a custom application but i'd be willing to bet you could still get it for well under a grand. considering that a 69 camaro tanks with EFI pump and sending unit is about 900 bucks. if you just need the tank, i'd bet bet it would about 6-800 bucks. and they are all made from stainless steel too.
 
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Ronstang said:
I don't have pictures, sorry. Each application is different and you will have to work with what you have. If you have a sending unit/pickup tube then you can make a bos the fits at the bottom of the tank with the pickup inside of it. You can use my box as an idea of what you need. Make sure that the return line also dumps into the surge box as this is what guarantees that it will always have fuel in it.
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Yes, I actually bought a Ron Morris Performance sending unit for my stock '70 tank, which has a return line soldered in. I'd hate to throw it away, but unless I solve the problem it isn't worth much to me.

bnickel said:
you caould talk to the guys at rock valley as well....
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Thanks, I will. I also found a California company, http://www.autoworks.cc which has a few offerings. Their products look to be more on the primative side, though.
 

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Here is mine.

Here is what I did. A small write up also is done on it.

Article: http://users.ev1.net/~gbuzek/H Tank info.htm




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Glen's 1965 5.0 said:
Here is what I did. A small write up also is done on it.

Article: http://users.ev1.net/~gbuzek/H Tank info.htm




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Glen, I read your write-up, and also visited some of the links you provided, so thanks. It looks to be a tight fit between the main tank and the rear axle, though.
 

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Just FYI, I put a standard tank in my E-350 with FI 460, with no baffles, and I've never had a problem with it. Been driving it that way for a couple of years now.
 

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The pic is a little deceiving. There are several inches in between. My exhaust has more clearance issues.
 
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