...I have mine. Your info tells you PDs are better. Mine tells me centris are better.
Good God. This discussion is pointless.
Bottom line....MMR holds many mod motor records and not one of their car run a PD blower.
Good God. This discussion is pointless.
Bottom line....MMR holds many mod motor records and not one of their car run a PD blower.
I'm not being condescending, I really would like to hear a serious rebuttal from the other side of the argument.
Because like I said, I'm not gonna get into all that. Even if I post all the info in the world to support my statements, it won't change anyone's mind not one bit. I've been there, I've done that, and I don't care to ever get involved in discussions like that ever again. I've been on forums where I repeatedly posted numerous threads and videos and posts from other forums, Youtube, dyno graphs, magazines, etc to prove my point. I've been in arguments that lasted 7-10 pages over several days. I've been in arguments where the thread had been closed, posts deleted, members given temporary bans, etc. And it never ever changes a person's mind. So that's why I choose not to do all that. I make a statement based off what I know and researched and experienced. If someone wants to believe me, then fine. If not, then fine. I respect everyone's viewpoint even if I don't agree and I ask the same in return.The entire reason the Centri feels like it pulls like a freight train on the top end is the same reason a little Honda Civic with its V-Tec feels like it pulls so hard on the top end; They both lack low end torque! So of course it's going to feel as though there is this massive power surge, it's a peaky setup. As I stated before, this is coming from a guy (myself) who ran a Vortech on an 01 Cobra. Nearly all of these blower setups Centri or PD make almost identical peak HP, it's all the same with the only difference being in low end torque and that goes handily to the PD blower.
This statement confuses me greatly: Three50won- "You have your info that tells you what you know, I have mine. Your info tells you PDs are better. Mine tells me centris are better."
You have presented absolutely no data whatsoever to support your argument, only a biased personal opinion and first hand accounts of what you've seen at a track. The "info" you're referring to is not information at all, but rather a personal opinion which is good for nothing when trying to prove any point wether it be on a Mustang forum or in a court of law. You would make an absolutely terrible lawyer because you seem to confuse facts and data with personal opinion. You're one of those square peg round hole type of guys it seems.
Because like I said, I'm not gonna get into all that. Even if I post all the info in the world to support my statements, it won't change anyone's mind not one bit. I've been there, I've done that, and I don't care to ever get involved in discussions like that ever again.
I'm here "8 posts later" addressing the comments that you and others are making towards me. And what point would it be to argue? Is there any way that anything I write will change your opinion Gearbanger? No there isn't. Even when I tried to make a neutral comment you STILL came at me. I even said I respect your choice and viewpoint even tho I don't agree with it. You have not done me the same courtesy in return. Not even remotely. That right there is enough information to tell me that you guys just want an argument. And you know good and well that even if I did post a video or graph, you'd just post another one. And we'd go back and forth. And 10 pages later we'd still be fighting about it. And at some point either someone will give up or the thread will get closed...but neither of us will walk away with a different viewpoint. You can't even agree to respectfully drop the argument in favor of maintaining some level of mutual respect and peace on this forum. So what more do you want? Here is what I'm gonna do. I withdraw all my comments on this subject. And I will return to this thread to offer only solid mechanical advice or advice on tuning or purchasing parts etc. But as far as this conversation of whats better and who can piss farther, count me completely out as of now. If OP wants a PD blower, then good for him. If he wants a centri blower, then fine as well. If he gets one and then swaps it out for a different and then back again, then more power to him. Either way the car will be faster and more fun to drive than it is now. Blowers are fun, boost is fun, regardless of how much, where in the RPM, or whatever the heck else there is to argue about.lol....again, you state you don't want to argue and get into a long drawn out discussion on the subject, but here you are....8-posts later, doing just that. So what you're saying is that you'd rather just have people take you at your word when you state your "opinion" as fact, because you just "know it to be true" and questioning your logic will simply be met with "I'm not going to get into it"? You have a heck of a way of validating a point my friend.....makes perfect sense.
I've got a feeling I know why some of the threads you've been involved in on the topic have gone south.
I think it would be wrong to say that a pd falls on it's face up high......I just had to increase the limiter on my ecu at the recommendation of sneaky to spin some more high end hp. And I'm running an eaton.....super inefficient compared to other blowers. And I'm still running n/a cams losing a lot on low end. Planning on stage 3 blower cams this summer.
Thanks it taken me a lot of time and money to get it there. I'd love to slap a 2.3 tvs on next year
For sure, thanks BobIt should be a good setup. Just make sure you get a good tune before you go romping on it when it's together
okay so I found a used 1.7 kb. ( about 15,000 miles) complete setup with the intercooler. Paid $1900. Was wondering if this setup sounds legit/safe:
(again just a weekend cruiser and trying to get thrown back in the seat a little more)
Boost a pump with stock pump
39lb cobra injectors
NGK TR6 plugs .035
3 inch pulley
kn Cold air intake with I'm assuming stock mass airflow ant throttle body (kb and a Dyno shop here in town said would be ok but would not get max gains wich I'm cool with.)
Was told 8.5-9.0 boost, is that safe for a stock 4.6?
Thought I would ask people who are in the trenches.
Thanks a lot
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