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Sketchy_GT

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so as I was driving home from the shop last night my check engine light came on and when I got home I scanned the code and it came back with P0190 which from what I can tell is a fuel rail pressure sensor but I've also seen that other stuff can cause this code. The car does sputter one in awhile while turning and gearing down or pulling out and running it out into 3000 RPMs and say I'm sitting at a red light the rpms will fluctuate between idling at 800 and dropping to 400 like it would stall but it comes back up so does this sound like the fuel rail pressure sensor or something else
 

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How old is the fuel filter?
 

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Prolly factory lol
 

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Change that first and report back
 

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So I changed the fuel filter and I agree it needed it but it still didn't fix the issue now it just climbs to over 1000 rpms before it falls to 400 while just idling still has the code
 

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Check the fuel pressure. If it's good the it's likely your sensor.
 

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The weird thing is after I put gas in the car it doesn't stutter or buck around but it still does the weird idle thing but once it starts getting low of fuel it goes stupid
 

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do you guys think there is alot of trash in the tank i mean since when it gets low of fuel it does more of the sputtering and bucking around
 

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so to let everyone know i fixed the problem. i started to take the FRPS off this Saturday and when i pulled off the vacuum line on it a piece came out of the line protector that was about 5 inches long so 1 new 2 foot long vacuum line later and the car runs and idles better than it ever has (obviously it should since a vacuum line was literally broke in half)
 

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squeak93 said:
Change that first and report back
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If the fuel pump is also factory, change that as well.
 

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Noobz347 said:
If the fuel pump is also factory, change that as well.
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I'm about 98% sure it is and since my fuel gauge doesn't work anyway and i know its because of the float in the tank im going to put the whole assembly in sometime either this month or the first of april
 

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FoxbodyDan123 said:
I'm about 98% sure it is and since my fuel gauge doesn't work anyway and i know its because of the float in the tank im going to put the whole assembly in sometime either this month or the first of april
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With a pump that has that many service hours... I wouldn't expect it to be doing much beyond circulating fuel inside of the tank. hehe
 

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when i checked my fuel pressure and at idle it was at like 37-39 so its actually doing very good but if I'm going in there to change the unit out I would obviously change the pump that way I should only have to go in there 1 time. but my last GT had 186,000 when i sold it and replaced the still working perfectly fuel pump at 179,000 so i have some faith lol
 

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FoxbodyDan123 said:
when i checked my fuel pressure and at idle it was at like 37-39 so its actually doing very good but if I'm going in there to change the unit out I would obviously change the pump that way I should only have to go in there 1 time. but my last GT had 186,000 when i sold it and replaced the still working perfectly fuel pump at 179,000 so i have some faith lol
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You don't really know that it's doing good unless you're able to observe fuel pressure at power settings. They have an internal by-pass that doesn't always function the greatest when it's old.
 

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well whether it fails or is bad or not its getting replaced anyway lol
 

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FoxbodyDan123 said:
The car does sputter one in awhile while turning and gearing down or pulling out and running it out into 3000 RPMs and say I'm sitting at a red light the rpms will fluctuate between idling at 800 and dropping to 400 like it would stall but it comes back up so does this sound like the fuel rail pressure sensor or something else
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Other items that have the potential to cause these symptoms:

Vacuum leak
TPS
IAC
VSS Signal Wire
O2 Sensor(s)

Have you pulled codes?
 

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Noobz347 said:
Other items that have the potential to cause these symptoms:

Vacuum leak
TPS
IAC
VSS Signal Wire
O2 Sensor(s)

Have you pulled codes?
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did you not see the post i posted first thing this morning about me fixing it this weekend because of a broken vacum line

FoxbodyDan123 said:
so to let everyone know i fixed the problem. i started to take the FRPS off this Saturday and when i pulled off the vacuum line on it a piece came out of the line protector that was about 5 inches long so 1 new 2 foot long vacuum line later and the car runs and idles better than it ever has (obviously it should since a vacuum line was literally broke in half)
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FoxbodyDan123 said:
did you not see the post i posted first thing this morning about me fixing it this weekend because of a broken vacum line
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Well then....

Disregard.
 
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