Need some aod/aode info

BlownStangGT · Apr 11, 2005

Ok, I am doing the first oil change on the coupe I just got. I need to know some maintence for the aod/aode. first off, do I have a aod or aode? I was reading in jegs about shift kits, and noticed it said from 92-95 was aode...but I thought only 94-95's had aode's. The car has 78k miles on it. Im going to check the fluid today and see what it looks like. Am I better off not touching it and leaving it alone, or should I change the fluid? How do I drain the fluid and where do I fill it? How many quarts? Also thought about adding some lucus stuff for the tranny. Let me know your suggestions. Thanks

5spd GT · Apr 11, 2005

You have an AOD...AODE's are in 94/95 Mustangs...the problem with getting parts from such a big supplier is the "applications" are so universally listed. I found that out the hard way with ARP bolts

I don't know the AOD fill and how much to fill info. I just know the T5 info...sorry on that respect...

dstanggt50 · Apr 11, 2005

when I had my 87 gt aod, I removed the tranny fluid by just removing the tranny pan, because I always changed the filter inside the aod anyway. After letting it all drip out, replace the filter, new gasket, put the pan back on, and filled it w/a funnel through the tranny dipstick, and used the marks to reference how much was needed to go in. I used decron/mercron 3 ( I think, just auto tranny fluid). As far as aod vs aode, I thought that some 93 I saw in the catalogs that some 93's were aode's, but I think you've got an aod.

BlownStangGT · Apr 11, 2005

Alright, yeah I fig the best thing to do is drop the pan and fill it and change the filter...anyone know for sure how much it takes? thanks

monte87 · Apr 11, 2005

Its an AOD

Hey man,

Its an AOD.... Do youself the biggest favor, either buy a deep sump tranny pan with a drain plug, or do what i did-Drop the pan drill a hole and weld a nut on the -Create a drainplug! Just drain the fluid. Easy, no mess-But every 3 fluid changes, Drop the pan and change the filter.
Oh-by the way-It takes about 3 1/2 quarts when draing the fluid without a finlter change. i guess with a filter change 5-6....

Hope this helps-Anthony

BlownStangGT · Apr 11, 2005

monte87 said:
Hey man,

Its an AOD.... Do youself the biggest favor, either buy a deep sump tranny pan with a drain plug, or do what i did-Drop the pan drill a hole and weld a nut on the -Create a drainplug! Just drain the fluid. Easy, no mess-But every 3 fluid changes, Drop the pan and change the filter.
Oh-by the way-It takes about 3 1/2 quarts when draing the fluid without a finlter change. i guess with a filter change 5-6....

Hope this helps-Anthony

Ok thanks, does the deep pan help the tranny alot? or is that just an option, I fig Id do a filter change as well. Thanks

TheBocSez · Apr 11, 2005

Yes the deep pan helps alot. I got one the aluminum PA models, adds an extra 2 qts to the pan.

The prob with the stock pan is that its stamped steel and will bend very easily, usually from over-torquing the pan bolts (big no-no only takes about 10-12 inlbs or a light snugging dont crank em down. easiest way to a leak). The aluminum pan is very rigid.

If not an aluminum pan, at least on of the Ford Chrome pans. Stock fluid levels but maybe a little more stiff from the chrome and comes with a drain plug installed.

Once you remove the pan and drain the fluid and change the filter, add 4qts tranny fluid then lower the car and start it. Run it through the gears so fluid get in all the channls then check it again. will probably still need to add a qt of 2.

Once its full, take it out and drive it a while so that the tranny fluid gets up to temp and check it again.

One last thing to consider is the milage of the transmission and if it has had regular fluid changes. An old tranny will have built of varnish and the addition of new fluid with its fresh detergents will eat away at it possibly leading to slippage. Just a thought.

monte87 · Apr 11, 2005

Exactly what Boc said!

Exactly what Boc said!

Couldnt say it better.... P/A pans aree great, I just could see myself blow $170 for a pan, so i did a McGyver, butr dont get the extra 2 quart capacity or cool fins. Although-A Trick that Lentech does it adds a Tranny pan off a F150, it has an extra bump space for a little bit more fluid and so the tranny doesnt lose fluid while making sudden stops. but the P/A is a better choisE!

Anthony

willys1 · Apr 11, 2005

Aods till 93. Aode's started in 94,I believe they are computer controlled.

HISSIN50 · Apr 11, 2005

willys1 said:
Aods till 93. Aode's started in 94,I believe they are computer controlled.

AOD = automatic overdrive.
AODE = automatic overdrive (electronic), or electronic automatic overdrive.

to be electronic, computer control is usually required.

willys1 · Apr 11, 2005

HISSIN50 said:
AOD = automatic overdrive.
AODE = automatic overdrive (electronic), or electronic automatic overdrive.

to be electronic, computer control is usually required.

Picky, picky

macx · Apr 11, 2005

My info has it that 92-up Mustangs have the AOD/E. You can easily tell - does the throttle arm at the throttle body have 2 or 3 cables to it? Two would be the footfeed cable and the cruise, the third would be the throttle valve for the hydraulically controlled AOD. The AOD/E, being electrically controlled, has no throttle valve cable going to an L shaped lever on the driver side. Instead, there will be an electric plug with several wires on that side.

You should also drain the torque converter, whichever trans you have.

Take the thin small plate off the bottom of the front side of the bellhousing. Rotate the engine with a 15/16" socket on the big bolt in the center of the dampener on front of the engine. Rotate as if you're tightening it (clockwise) so you don't loosen that damper bolt. Rotate till you can see a small plug near the ring gear, it takes like a 1/2" or so wrench. Most of the fluid in the trans actually is inside the converter, so you want to get rid of it all, otherwise youj're only dumping about 1/3rd of the fluid and just diluting the old dirty 8 or 9 quarts with 3 or 4 quarts of fresh.

The AOD takes 12 quarts total with filter change & drained converter. The AOD/E should be very similar.

It's better to use Mercon V like they use in the 4R70Ws. It takes more heat and has more additives than Mercon II.

Also, you can go to a local library and look up any kind of info you want in a big Chilton type manual, including how to change trans fluid, and what type of trans you have for sure.

HISSIN50 · Apr 11, 2005

Mac, i dont think foxes had a computer revision to accomodate the AODE's.

i have also read about using Mercon V instead of the earlier Mercons (for shudder control, etc). i also read that the two should not be mixed - do you know if that is true?

willys1 · Apr 11, 2005

I have a 93 and know for a fact its an Aod

5spd GT · Apr 11, 2005

The AODE started in the 94 sn95 stangs...that would have to be that way (different computers) - as JT stated they are computer controlled...

The "info" listed is probably a universal info about maybe related to the cougar/thunderbird lines (5.0L)...

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