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im ready to pull my hair out !!! I have a 93 5.0 that we have been trying to diagnose for a while and cant seem to find it , hopefully i can get some good pointers. When I go to get on it even a little bit it seems to slip or lose power somewhere in all gears same feel. We thought that it was the clutch so we put in a new one with a new fly wheel , and still no change , in fact i was turning on an off street and gave it some gas , and she bogged out6 a little and backfired a little . any suggestions will be GREATLY appreciated
 

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No mods listed - are you serious about wanting help? If so list your mods so we have some idea of where to start.

Possible engine/mods - how do we know which ones you have?
302-308, 327-331, 342-347, 351-357 or other engine size.
EFI or carb?
Stock or aftermarket ignition?
Stock cam or other?
Stock intake or aftermarket?
Stock throttle body or aftermarket?
Stock MAF or aftermarket - if aftermarket, what make and what size?
Stock heads , GT40 or aftermarket?
Cold air intake, if so where does the filter draw air from? Fenderwell or engine compartment?
What was the last item replaced, modifed, repaired or removed before the clutch was replaced?
 

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thats a good point , sorry Iam a little new at all this stuff,

light mods with the following:

stock intake with stock mass air and TB

aftermarket BBK cold air ( fenderwell)

off road H pipe with flowmasters

3:73 gears

centerforce dual friction clutch is what came out ( clutch looked fine with little wear) and replaced with a RAM clutch - used existing steeda adj clutch cable

Edelbrock water pump

3 core radiator with stock fan

short throw shifter

** most recent mods were the 3:73 gears **
 

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So ot it actual clutch slip? Or power loss?

Run the codes. Just because the CEL is not on doesn't mean codes aren't stored
 

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Dumping the computer diagnostic codes on 86-95 Mustangs

Revised 3-Jun-2011. Removed the link to BATAuto.com and troublecodes.net instructions on codes and how to dump them. Post the codes you get and I will post 5.0 Mustang specific code definitions and fixes.

Here's the way to dump the computer codes with only a jumper wire or paper clip and the check engine light, or test light or voltmeter. I’ve used it for years, and it works great. You watch the flashing test lamp or Check Engine Light and count the flashes.

Be sure to turn off the A/C, and put the transmission in neutral when dumping the codes. Fail to do this and you will generate a code 67 and not be able to dump the Engine Running codes.





If your car is an 86-88 stang, you'll have to use the test lamp or voltmeter method. There is no functional check engine light on the 86-88's except possibly the Cali Mass Air cars.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.

89 through 95 cars have a working Check Engine light. Watch it instead of using a test lamp.



The STI has a gray connector shell and a white/red wire. It comes from the same bundle of wires as the self test connector.


WARNING!!! There is a single dark brown connector with a black/orange wire. It is the 12 volt power to the under the hood light. Do not jumper it to the computer test connector. If you do, you will damage the computer.

What to expect:
You should get a code 11 (two single flashes in succession). This says that the computer's internal workings are OK, and that the wiring to put the computer into diagnostic mode is good. No code 11 and you have some wiring problems. This is crucial: the same wire that provides the ground to dump the codes provides signal ground for the TPS, EGR, ACT and Map/Baro sensors. If it fails, you will have poor performance, economy and driveablity problems

Some codes have different answers if the engine is running from the answers that it has when the engine isn't running. It helps a lot to know if you had the engine running when you ran the test.

Dumping the Engine Running codes: The procedure is the same, you start the engine with the test jumper in place. Be sure the A/C is off and the transmission is in neutral. You'll get an 11, then a 4 and the engine will speed up to do the EGR test. After the engine speed decreases back to idle, it will dump the engine running codes.

Trouble codes are either 2 digit or 3 digit, there are no cars that use both 2 digit codes and 3 digit codes.

Alternate methods:
For those who are intimidated by all the wires & connections, see Actron® for what a typical hand scanner looks like. Normal retail price is about $30 or so at AutoZone or Wal-Mart.

Or for a nicer scanner see Equus - Digital Ford Code Reader (3145) – It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
Or for a nicer scanner see http://www.midwayautosupply.com/p-7208-equus-digital-ford-code-reader-3145.aspx– It has a 3 digit LCD display so that you don’t have to count flashes or beeps.. Cost is $30.
 

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thank you very much , I will check that out asap
 
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