New Baer brakes, not working so well

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chezwic

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I just had a new Baer brake system installed on my 93 LX, and let me tell you,, it is NO better than my stock brakes, in fact worse! I was then informed by the garage that installed them that I need to go thru the 'rotor seasoning' process as outlined on the Baer website. I have done this to no avail. The brakes still suck, although they are slightly better than before the seasoning process.

Has anyone else gone thru this? Will they become better as I continue to drive the car?? I can't even lock it up at highway speed. I spent $1300 on the brakes and they are no better than the stock system.

Thanks in advance.

 

payupsucka

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they will work better after you break them in, but check your prop valve and adjust it to give you more brake bias in the front brakes. i have the baer kit and thats what i did and i love the brakes

 

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did the system come with a master cylinder?

 

tunedin302

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I have gone through the same thing. Check my sig for help. If that doesn't answer your questions then PM me.

 

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Yes, the kit came with a master cylinder, stainless braded hoses, calipers, slotted/drilled rotors.

As for the prop valve, I don't know if I would need that (then again, I don't claim to know much). If I stomp the brakes at 65 mph it does not lock up. The rear wheels have never locked or hinted to.

 

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Does the pedal feel spongy? If it does, then you should probably try bleeding the system a couple more times. You may not have gotten all of the the air out. Especially if you can't even lock up the rear brakes.

 

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No. The pedal is stiff. Stiffer than brakes on normal cars.

 

4G-KDMP

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did you gut the combo valve?

 

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Yeah theres definitally something wrong with the system, I remember following behind a 99 cobra with brembos on it, and we agreed before hand (we were on a cruise) that he would double tap the brakes before he got on them so I wouldnt rear end him lol.

 

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4G-KDMP said:

did you gut the combo valve?

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If you mean the factory proportion valve, no. Not supposed to gut it unless you are installing another aftermarket prop valve,,, according to the Baer instructions.

 

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chezwic said:

If you mean the factory proportion valve, no. Not supposed to gut it unless you are installing another aftermarket prop valve,,, according to the Baer instructions.

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not saying you're wrong, and since you did the install you have intrsuction in from of you, i'll say your right it's just that i thought i read somewhere that you need to is the only reason i suggested it.

 

tunedin302

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chezwic said:

If you mean the factory proportion valve, no. Not supposed to gut it unless you are installing another aftermarket prop valve,,, according to the Baer instructions.

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What?? Didn't you install the Baer prop valve? Did you get the M2300K Killer kit??

 

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i got the baer kit under the m2300k killer kit and it came with a prop valve i think all 4 wheel disc brake kits come with one. thats probably your problem

 

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tunedin302 said:

What?? Didn't you install the Baer prop valve? Did you get the M2300K Killer kit??

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whew!! i'm feeling better now.
so i wasn't that far out of line by mentioning.. did you gut the prop/combo valve then.

 

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chezwic said:

I just had a new Baer brake system installed on my 93LX, I spent $1300 on the brakes and they are no better than the stock system.

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now that i 've read his post for the 3rd time, does baer sell there kit for only $1300?
i thought it was more like $2300

 

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4G-KDMP said:

now that i 've read his post for the 3rd time, does baer sell there kit for only $1300?
i thought it was more like $2300

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I know mine weren't at all close to $1300 What system did you get? We are going to need some more info in order to help you. I am hoping you got the twin piston PBR calipers and 13" front rotors. Also, what MC are you using?

 

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It sounds like to me, guys, that he did not upgrade the rear brakes. He hasn't mentioned at all any rear disc's. 1300 would be too cheap (new) for a complete baer kit with rear discs. Sounds like he just upgraded the front brakes.

 

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sounds like only the rotor and caliper to me for that price

 

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Correct. only the front brakes. Kit included:
13' slotted, drilled, zinc washed rotors, 4 pistion calipers, spindles, Master cylinder, braded hoses, and new lines. No Prop valve included. Just a front kit. Baer Track System.

 

tunedin302

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chezwic said:

Correct. only the front brakes. Kit included:
13' slotted, drilled, zinc washed rotors, 4 pistion calipers, spindles, Master cylinder, braded hoses, and new lines. No Prop valve included. Just a front kit. Baer Track System.

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??? 4 piston? if they are the PBR then they are twin piston. Did they give you a 2 or 3 port MC with it?