New Fast and Furious

Maryland Stang · Apr 11, 2009

1990Coupe said:
Movies like Jason, and Halloween don't happen either.... I don't see anyone bashing how they aren't "correct"

Nah, in thse types of movies real life is much more horrible than anything you have ever seen in the movies.

Jeffrey Dahmer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
John Wayne Gacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Ted Bundy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
San Ysidro McDonald's massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The last one is particularly brutal due to the ages of some of the victims. I remember when it happened and still have the Life magazine with an article describing it. I still look around everytime I go into Mickie D's.

daviszx3 · Apr 11, 2009

i thought it was really good

Beasty306GT · Apr 11, 2009

i really liked it....some real cool muscle cars in it...nice 4 eye too

Darkwriter77 · Apr 11, 2009

1990Coupe said:
actually no....

It was way more correct the alot of the other car movies ever are.. I saw it tonight and i loved it.. Minus the wheelies, and the driving through the tunnels alot of it was more correct.

Movies like Jason, and Halloween don't happen either.... I don't see anyone bashing how they aren't "correct"

When did I say anything about whether or not the movie is "correct?" I just think it's a freakin' joke, that's all. Terrible acting, terrible screenwriting, and special effects that are completely illogical and unbelievable.

And, FWIW, nobody bashes Friday the 13th or Halloween because they generally feature serial killers that are either UNDEAD or are some kind of demonic entity, which most folks have sense enough not to BELIEVE actually exist. (In both cases, it's never been fully explained how Jason or Michael keep coming back because in every friggin' movie they have a different theory. ) On the other hand, most folks (especially teenagers, to which these movies are targeted) are pretty car-illiterate and can be quite easily led to believe that cars can pop wheelies in the dirt or on the street with relative ease, that riced-out four-bangers can be made to beat Ferraris and old muscle cars if you tack on enough gaudy colors and graphics and doohickies made by NOS or APC, and that your floorpans will drop out if you spray too much NAWWWWSSSS.

It's sad that people think the only way to make a car-themed movie exciting is by grossly exaggerating details of action sequences. Frankly, I'd be more excited to see a movie with car chases that aren't all filled with CGI effects or silly gimmick shots that completely defy the laws of physics. I'd love to see a movie where they actually use REAL CARS with REAL HORSEPOWER actually going at FULL SPEED and smashing stuff up. Actually, Hollywood did put out movies like this at one point ... many, many years ago, unfortunately...

QUICK91LX · Apr 11, 2009

Finally saw it last night...the acting was awful just like in the previous 3, the plot was sketchy, there were holes here and there that could have been developed better, and of course a ton of the driving-related stunts were totally far fetched, but entertainment-wise it was good stuff.

FAR better cars in this than any of the previous ones and the sound effects were great too. That GN in the beginning sounded mean but you could tell it was the Turbo 6. I enjoyed it overall. You have to be able to overlook the technical stuff as a car guy to appreciate the movie for what it is...and IIRC, they didn't use the word NAWSSSSS at all!

Strippt88 · Apr 11, 2009

Darkwriter77 said:
When did I say anything about whether or not the movie is "correct?" I just think it's a freakin' joke, that's all. Terrible acting, terrible screenwriting, and special effects that are completely illogical and unbelievable.

And, FWIW, nobody bashes Friday the 13th or Halloween because they generally feature serial killers that are either UNDEAD or are some kind of demonic entity, which most folks have sense enough not to BELIEVE actually exist. (In both cases, it's never been fully explained how Jason or Michael keep coming back because in every friggin' movie they have a different theory. ) On the other hand, most folks (especially teenagers, to which these movies are targeted) are pretty car-illiterate and can be quite easily led to believe that cars can pop wheelies in the dirt or on the street with relative ease, that riced-out four-bangers can be made to beat Ferraris and old muscle cars if you tack on enough gaudy colors and graphics and doohickies made by NOS or APC, and that your floorpans will drop out if you spray too much NAWWWWSSSS.

It's sad that people think the only way to make a car-themed movie exciting is by grossly exaggerating details of action sequences. Frankly, I'd be more excited to see a movie with car chases that aren't all filled with CGI effects or silly gimmick shots that completely defy the laws of physics. I'd love to see a movie where they actually use REAL CARS with REAL HORSEPOWER actually going at FULL SPEED and smashing stuff up. Actually, Hollywood did put out movies like this at one point ... many, many years ago, unfortunately...

We're not supposed to think during movies. Very important. This series would surely have ended after Paul Walker used the term "NAWS" in the first one if the patrons had the ability to reason. I've been playing car guy for 30 years, and it took me a minute to translate what he was talking about. Or typing on a computer mid race, comical at best. Jake and Elwood were the last to run full speed(on Lake Street and Lower Wacker- no easy feat for any stuntman) far as I know!

Cobra912 · Apr 11, 2009

Rental...............

mob · Apr 11, 2009

I saw it today and was disappointed the story was real sloppy and the writing/director seemed rather amateur compared to the first one. I actually really enjoy the first fast and furious. It is the only one I enjoy though. You can laugh at the small things in it but it focuses more on cars than a lame story line and computer stunts like the others. I was expecting this one to be more like the first one but its more like the sequels.

FrankenStang · Apr 12, 2009

I refuse to see it.

Shakerhood · Apr 12, 2009

Maryland Stang said:
Ahhh... That's like saying you won't see Friday the 13th because it promotes mass murdering.

I haven't seen the newest movie yet but it's on my must see on DVD list.

I disagree, these stupid Movies plant ideas in these baggy pant sideways wearing hat tools to think they are Vin Douchebag, they go racing through the parking lots trying to do that foolish Oversteer stuff in their front drivers, it wont be long for them to kill someone!

Calico Cobra · Apr 12, 2009

I thought the movie was decent. I took the wife and she enjoyed it. I know there were some things that were far fetched, but it was entertaining. There were a lot of young kids there and they were having a good time. To me that's what's it all about. if you want to see real racing, watch a documentary. If you want to be entertained for an hour and a half, check the movie out.

QUICK91LX · Apr 12, 2009

I was surprised that in the parking lot when I came out of the movie there was only one car resembling anything like a "tuner" car and it was a frog-eyed WRX with the full rally treatment - huge wing with built in diffuser, STi wheels, full front light bar with 4 huge Hella lights - other than that, there was no rice nor a single "fast" car to be seen.

One kid in a white Scion TC tried to spin his tires around a corner...emphasis on tried...but that was about it.

When I saw the first one I had my 91 LX there and it was a frenzy of rice activity leaving that place. The whole ricer thing has kinda died down around here...there are a few scattered around but not like it used to be where every other Civic had a fart can hanging under the bumper.

I should also note that the only Honda product that had any sort of major exposure was the black NSX that Mia (Dom's sister) drove at the end. The rest was mostly muscle...except for Brian's Skyline and the STi towards the end.

solow5.0 · Apr 12, 2009

I have been around the car scene since the early 90's as I am sure many of you have been as well.. One thing that never changes is the love for American Muscle Cars. I have seen many trends during the years such as mini-trucks, sport compacts, etc........ but people ALWAYS come back to muscle cars. In the end, what enjoyment can you get from driving a front-wheel drive compact car or a truck that can't even drive over a speed bump!!. I get a real kick outta dumping the clutch in my Mustang at about 3,000-4,000 rpms and getting all kinds of sideways. What does this have to do with this movie. It is obvious that they realized the same thing. The American Muscle Car scene is bigger than ever and has outlived all the other trends that come and go every couple of years.

91ghp5.0 · Apr 12, 2009

Darkwriter, if you've watched the Bullitt chase scene recently, the editing is terrible. He'll go around one corner with a MASSIVE dent in the side of the car, but afterwards he'll get into a straight and the car will be perfect. Not saying it's a bad chase scene....I love that movie, but those parts made me laugh pretty hard.

Oh, and has anyone seen the "Italian Job?" Listen to the boat at the beggining of the movie. Hardly a little 4-cylinder. They make it sound like an LS1.

Darkwriter77 · Apr 12, 2009

91ghp5.0 said:
Darkwriter, if you've watched the Bullitt chase scene recently, the editing is terrible. He'll go around one corner with a MASSIVE dent in the side of the car, but afterwards he'll get into a straight and the car will be perfect. Not saying it's a bad chase scene....I love that movie, but those parts made me laugh pretty hard.

Oh, and has anyone seen the "Italian Job?" Listen to the boat at the beggining of the movie. Hardly a little 4-cylinder. They make it sound like an LS1.

True. Some of the continuity flaws due to the editing, like the VW Beetle that they pass like four times and the Charger that loses about 8 hubcaps, those were just a combination of sloppy production. But the fact of the matter was they used ACTUAL cars on ACTUAL streets, going at FULL SPEED. Finding movies like that nowadays is an extremely rare thing, as directors and producers are addicted to computer-generated effects. I know there's a liability and risk factor involved when using actual cars, but c'mon ... isn't that what stuntmen used to be hired for in the past?

The problem with Hollywood's CGI addiction with regard to stunts and such, as well as their overall choice to prefer stylization over substance in action, is that some people (teenagers and naive adults, mainly) just don't know the difference. Computer graphics have gotten to a point where it's getting really hard sometimes to tell (visually) what is real and what's something they cooked up on a few desktop PC's. And if you're not well-versed in cars or physics or whatever, then some of the craziness they put forth might seem entirely plausible, and so stupid people will think, "Hell ... if they can do it, I'll bet I can, too!" And so there you wind up with douchebags driving WHATEVER kind of car like a total asshat in traffic, zipping in and out of lanes, revving at every stoplight and trying to emulate the Vin Diesel "tough guy" look, trying to "drift" around corners (still one of the all-time dumbest "sports" I've ever seen), and so on. People are generally stupid, that's a given, but movies like the Fast & Furious series just propagate further idiocy with misinformation.

It's kind of sad that the producers are resorting to focusing more on domestics in their series of silliness as a means of justifying the creation of yet another completely unnecessary sequel. In a way, it's kind of like they're silently admitting that the whole ricer car thing was beyond stupid to begin with, and it's like, "Okay, here's more of the same BS from the first three movies, but we're using cars people actually like, now!" That's about the same thing as when the New Kids of the Block decided to start calling themselves "NKOTB" for awhile - different image, same worthless garbage.

MAC'n89Blckstng · Apr 12, 2009

Not to mention that "Bullit" came out in 1968. Go watch "Death Proof". That is a sick movie with a bunch of sick car chase scenes.

solow5.0 · Apr 12, 2009

Anyone remember the original Dirty Marry Crazy Larry with Peter Fonda!!! That was a great car chase movie.

solow5.0 · Apr 12, 2009

RedFoxGT said:
I'm sorry but things are not the same as they were in the early 90's. From what i've seen, the muscle car trend started going down right after the Mustang lost its main competitor.

The sad truth is that the majority of people today between the ages 18-30 choose imports over American Muscle. Where I live its hard enough finding a Foxbody Mustang or an F-Body let alone a younger person driving one.

Might be a little different here in the midwest. I see very few sport compact cars, but many mustangs, camaros, etc......... And with the new Challengers and Camaros coming out, the war is definitely heating up. Just yesterday, I was at KCIR racing my bike, and could count the number of imports on one hand with a couple fingers left over. And this was with a 200+ car count. Last year or the year before that, there would have been a bigger crowd of the imports, but they are slowly dying off. But being that you live where the import scene started, I am sure that things are significantly different.

Shakerhood · Apr 13, 2009

RedFoxGT said:
If i'm not mistaken the new one has more domestics in it.

I dont see what that has to do with it other than the movie company destroying domestic muscle cars. I refuse to see any of the False and the Foolish Movies as I do not want to promote the Ricer Lifestyle.

1990Coupe · Apr 13, 2009

The import scene is starting to die down. And most of the imports i see around here are Hardly "rice". The import cars around here cost way more then even a new mustang costs. These cars are fast, and the kids (adults) hooking them up are making them look pretty sweet.. the days of the civics with ricer body kits and big mufflers that add no performance gain have definitely slowed a ton.

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