1990Coupe
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The Falsies aside (which EVERY movie has.. yes including bullitt.. because they are for ENTERTAINMENT) it was a good movie. More muscle, and more correct then the first three. And it had a decent plot.
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That movie was badass. It really hit me hard at the beginning when tradgety struck. I was shocked. It hit me hard. But...it just added to the movie and got you into it more.
I want to say it was the best movie, but I love the first one. It's where it all begins. I also like the 2nd one a lot while others hate it.
I WILL NOT watch the 3rd one.
I want to say it was the best movie, but I love the first one. It's where it all begins. I also like the 2nd one a lot while others hate it.
I WILL NOT watch the 3rd one.
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I dont think the people you are talking about here need a movie to be jack-asses, thats like when the media blamed musicians for the columbine shootings
True. Some of the continuity flaws due to the editing, like the VW Beetle that they pass like four times and the Charger that loses about 8 hubcaps, those were just a combination of sloppy production. But the fact of the matter was they used ACTUAL cars on ACTUAL streets, going at FULL SPEED. Finding movies like that nowadays is an extremely rare thing, as directors and producers are addicted to computer-generated effects. I know there's a liability and risk factor involved when using actual cars, but c'mon ... isn't that what stuntmen used to be hired for in the past?
The problem with Hollywood's CGI addiction with regard to stunts and such, as well as their overall choice to prefer stylization over substance in action, is that some people (teenagers and naive adults, mainly) just don't know the difference. Computer graphics have gotten to a point where it's getting really hard sometimes to tell (visually) what is real and what's something they cooked up on a few desktop PC's. And if you're not well-versed in cars or physics or whatever, then some of the craziness they put forth might seem entirely plausible, and so stupid people will think, "Hell ... if they can do it, I'll bet I can, too!" And so there you wind up with douchebags driving WHATEVER kind of car like a total asshat in traffic, zipping in and out of lanes, revving at every stoplight and trying to emulate the Vin Diesel "tough guy" look, trying to "drift" around corners (still one of the all-time dumbest "sports" I've ever seen), and so on. People are generally stupid, that's a given, but movies like the Fast & Furious series just propagate further idiocy with misinformation.
It's kind of sad that the producers are resorting to focusing more on domestics in their series of silliness as a means of justifying the creation of yet another completely unnecessary sequel. In a way, it's kind of like they're silently admitting that the whole ricer car thing was beyond stupid to begin with, and it's like, "Okay, here's more of the same BS from the first three movies, but we're using cars people actually like, now!" That's about the same thing as when the New Kids of the Block decided to start calling themselves "NKOTB" for awhile - different image, same worthless garbage.
this is where a lack of knowledge in this film franchise makes you look a little ignorant.
In the second movie they used ALOT of Character Generated(CG) stunts, 2fast 2 furious was one of the worst movies that ive ever seen, there were no good stunts and the story was junk, it was just made to keep the cash rolling in from the first movie.
The other three movies used very little CG effects, and in my eyes the third movie did some really ground breaking shots and the way they filmed the movie was clean and done well. They actually used a shifter cart with a camera to get shots that werent possible without CG effects.
Bullit was a great movie for the time but the continuity flaws are a little much, they were professional film-makers and those mistakes are way excessive, you can do alot of tricks with editing.
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The problem with Hollywood's CGI addiction with regard to stunts and such, as well as their overall choice to prefer stylization over substance in action, is that some people (teenagers and naive adults, mainly) just don't know the difference. Computer graphics have gotten to a point where it's getting really hard sometimes to tell (visually) what is real and what's something they cooked up on a few desktop PC's. And if you're not well-versed in cars or physics or whatever, then some of the craziness they put forth might seem entirely plausible, and so stupid people will think, "Hell ... if they can do it, I'll bet I can, too!" And so there you wind up with douchebags driving WHATEVER kind of car like a total asshat in traffic, zipping in and out of lanes, revving at every stoplight and trying to emulate the Vin Diesel "tough guy" look, trying to "drift" around corners (still one of the all-time dumbest "sports" I've ever seen), and so on. People are generally stupid, that's a given, but movies like the Fast & Furious series just propagate further idiocy with misinformation.
It's kind of sad that the producers are resorting to focusing more on domestics in their series of silliness as a means of justifying the creation of yet another completely unnecessary sequel. In a way, it's kind of like they're silently admitting that the whole ricer car thing was beyond stupid to begin with, and it's like, "Okay, here's more of the same BS from the first three movies, but we're using cars people actually like, now!" That's about the same thing as when the New Kids of the Block decided to start calling themselves "NKOTB" for awhile - different image, same worthless garbage.
See 90lxcoupe's response on columbine. These movies, and your argument, are no different the kids killing other kids based of what they see in Video games. Its enterainment and you are blowing it completely out of proportion, making them sound 100x worse then they are...
People in this thread are presenting arguments that are weak at best on this subject.
Don't you mean Computer Generated?
Either way, I don't see what is wrong with using CG for some stunts. If you can save on production costs, avoid unnecessary safety risks, and destroy less precious sheet metal by CG'ing a massive explosion, all while making it look extremely convincing, then I don't see why not go for it.
I'll go see this movie just because I "don't look a gift horse in the mouth" and I'll take any automotive movie that Hollywood will give me... But I have to say that the cheezy plots, extremely worn-out automotive stereotypes/misconceptions, and bad acting kill these movies for me. I don't mind the wheelies on dirt or the cars surviving 30 foot jump scenes. Its fun to watch.
im kinda pissed they put muscle cars in it, idk about you guys, but when i went to see it the whole theater was filled with the typical thug lyf PR types. those retards ruined the whole import thing, just wait until they start chopping up chevelles and camaros and putting spinners on them...
I wish I had the money and computer graphics skills to make a more extreme version of the F&F films. I'd have dudes racing Geo Metros and Ford Tempos and stuff that run single-digit quarter miles, land 30-foot jumps without suffering any suspension damage whatsoever, outrun Ferraris and old muscle cars with ease, and are being driven by dudes dressed up like Flava Flav (with Shamwow Vince's hair) that type magic codes into their laptops while driving that give their cars added "boost" at convenient moments. Hell ... I might as well go ahead and write up a script and pitch it to Hollywood. It'd probably sell. 
PRODUCER: What's this scene about? In this part, the guy jumps out of a car that's moving along at 160 MPH and hops into the driver's seat of a car moving in the opposite direction and keeps driving?
ME: Yup.
PRODUCER: There's not a stunt man on earth that can do it.
ME: Naw, it's cool. We'll use CGI. People will dig it.
PRODUCER: What about this part, where this chick is doing her makeup in the middle of a street race?
ME: The target audience is mostly young males. If we hire a cast of really hot chicks from the adult film industry, they won't care. All they'll see is boobs.
PRODUCER: What about this part? In this scene that, I guess, is supposed to be an emotional tragedy, this one character sprays too much "NAWWWWS" in his quad-turbo'ed Buick Roadmaster, and he gets horribly burned when fire shoots from his sun visors, leaving him bald and afraid to ever race his Buick again. That makes absolutely no sense.
ME: It doesn't have to. Audiences love fire and explosions.
PRODUCER: And in the climax, you have these guys who are expert drivers and can make these really slow cars do impossible things, but right after the main bad guy beats the lead character in a street race, he winds up rear-ending an SUV that's sitting at a red light because he's too busy looking at the other guy he's racing.
ME: Yeah. It's like, y'know, a reality check. Or something. And stuff. Um, yeah.
PRODUCER: The effects budget for this alone would drive our studio into bankruptcy. The stuntmen, the pyrotechnics, the liability insurance...
ME: No, no. Like I said, we'll use CGI. It'll be cheap. I know this kid who's really good with Microsoft Movie Maker and Photoshop. He lives in his parents' basement, and he's willing to work for Cheetos and Red Bull, and if we'll pay for his monthly World of Warcraft account.
PRODUCER: What about the actors' pay?
ME: We'll hire total nobody actors who had lead roles in really obscure independent films and B-movies, or who had tiny cameo roles in big films. Oh, and for added star power and sex appeal, we're going to hire **** queens. Stephanie Swift has already agreed to sign on as soon as we get a greenlight. I think her name will look good in the credits and tie in with the title of the film. She's retired from the **** industry, I think, so she'll pretty much work for whatever we pay her.
PRODUCER: And what are you calling this film, again?
ME: The Reasonably Swift & The Disproportionately Angry.
PRODUCER: It seems a bit wordy.
ME: Well, "Fast & Furious" was already taken. And I didn't want to exaggerate TOO much. Wouldn't want to make the movie too unbelievable, y'know?
PRODUCER: No, no, of course not. I mean, the scene where the guy gets killed by a bird that punctures his windshield and shoots through his right eye into his brain was totally believable.
ME: Well, that's what can happen when you spray the NAWWWSSSSS.
PRODUCER: What's this scene about? In this part, the guy jumps out of a car that's moving along at 160 MPH and hops into the driver's seat of a car moving in the opposite direction and keeps driving?
ME: Yup.
PRODUCER: There's not a stunt man on earth that can do it.
ME: Naw, it's cool. We'll use CGI. People will dig it.
PRODUCER: What about this part, where this chick is doing her makeup in the middle of a street race?
ME: The target audience is mostly young males. If we hire a cast of really hot chicks from the adult film industry, they won't care. All they'll see is boobs.
PRODUCER: What about this part? In this scene that, I guess, is supposed to be an emotional tragedy, this one character sprays too much "NAWWWWS" in his quad-turbo'ed Buick Roadmaster, and he gets horribly burned when fire shoots from his sun visors, leaving him bald and afraid to ever race his Buick again. That makes absolutely no sense.
ME: It doesn't have to. Audiences love fire and explosions.
PRODUCER: And in the climax, you have these guys who are expert drivers and can make these really slow cars do impossible things, but right after the main bad guy beats the lead character in a street race, he winds up rear-ending an SUV that's sitting at a red light because he's too busy looking at the other guy he's racing.
ME: Yeah. It's like, y'know, a reality check. Or something. And stuff. Um, yeah.
PRODUCER: The effects budget for this alone would drive our studio into bankruptcy. The stuntmen, the pyrotechnics, the liability insurance...
ME: No, no. Like I said, we'll use CGI. It'll be cheap. I know this kid who's really good with Microsoft Movie Maker and Photoshop. He lives in his parents' basement, and he's willing to work for Cheetos and Red Bull, and if we'll pay for his monthly World of Warcraft account.
PRODUCER: What about the actors' pay?
ME: We'll hire total nobody actors who had lead roles in really obscure independent films and B-movies, or who had tiny cameo roles in big films. Oh, and for added star power and sex appeal, we're going to hire **** queens. Stephanie Swift has already agreed to sign on as soon as we get a greenlight. I think her name will look good in the credits and tie in with the title of the film. She's retired from the **** industry, I think, so she'll pretty much work for whatever we pay her.
PRODUCER: And what are you calling this film, again?
ME: The Reasonably Swift & The Disproportionately Angry.
PRODUCER: It seems a bit wordy.
ME: Well, "Fast & Furious" was already taken. And I didn't want to exaggerate TOO much. Wouldn't want to make the movie too unbelievable, y'know?
PRODUCER: No, no, of course not. I mean, the scene where the guy gets killed by a bird that punctures his windshield and shoots through his right eye into his brain was totally believable.
ME: Well, that's what can happen when you spray the NAWWWSSSSS.
pffft... loser... its already been done, and before f&f's time at that...
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There was an Article in Hot Rod about this silly movie, it mentioned the destruction of the American Cars, one example being a 72 Torino GT Fastback 4 Speed Big Block Car! If they wanted to mess up a Torino so bad, why not find a trashed one with a small block and an automatic?
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I would rather watch far fetched auto films than sit there with my wife watching chicks diss men 100 times and fall in love with them in the same hour all the while your trying not to focus on your wife/girlfriends tears soaking your buttered popcorn. Enjoy watching He's Just Not Into You or the Notebook type remakes. Ill watch far fetched car films and be entertained.
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Critics..
I would rather watch far fetched auto films than sit there with my wife watching chicks diss men 100 times and fall in love with them in the same hour all the while your trying not to focus on your wife/girlfriends tears soaking your buttered popcorn. Enjoy watching He's Just Not Into You or the Notebook type remakes. Ill watch far fetched car films and be entertained.
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ahahahahhaa ide rather smoke crack now that you put it that way
I haven not read all these long posts, but I caught the words "far fetched" and "computer generated" and other negative remarks.
So those who have knocked Fast and Furious......do you guys like Star Wars, Transformers, X-men, and all of those lame-ass, fake-ass movies? Are there any parts in those action movies that are real?
So those who have knocked Fast and Furious......do you guys like Star Wars, Transformers, X-men, and all of those lame-ass, fake-ass movies? Are there any parts in those action movies that are real?
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I personally don't watch any of those shows/movies, nor do I enjoy them. But the idea of that stuff is fake in the first place. Fast and Furious is "based" on a real life hobby. Thats just my thought and like Frankenstang said, my head hurts from this thread. lol
I would rather watch far fetched auto films than sit there with my wife watching chicks diss men 100 times and fall in love with them in the same hour all the while your trying not to focus on your wife/girlfriends tears soaking your buttered popcorn. Enjoy watching He's Just Not Into You or the Notebook type remakes. Ill watch far fetched car films and be entertained.
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Yeah! How DARE we not love some over-hyped BS cheeseball movie! How DARE someone criticize such awesomeness!
Hmmm ... I dunno about you, but I've never run across any wookies, Imperial droids, 50-foot-tall talking robots that transform into vehicles, or dudes with adamantium skeletons and retractable knives that can pop out of their knuckles ... although my ex-girlfriend was such a miserable bish that she could suck the lifeforce out of anyone she was near with the mutant power of her bitter attitude.
However, I HAVE encountered countless imports with hideous paintjob colors, tacky vinyl graphics galore, fart can mufflers, every accessory listed in an APC catalog, and drivers who call everyone "dawg," worship "NAWWWWSSS" like it's some divine entity, wear those golf visors upside-down and backwards (or sideways), and have wet dreams about "living life a quarter mile at a time" just like Vin Diesel.
Sci-fi and ricer movies aren't even vaguely in the same genre, so you're throwing out a totally bizarre comparison. It's kind of like saying "House" is a more realistic TV show than "Dora the Explorer."
I could go on and on about the countless things that are absurd, ridiculous, cheesy, annoying, and downright perplexing about the F&F movies, but essentially the series is an idiotic fad, plain and simple. I hope to God they get overexposed to a point where everyone finally gets tired of it and it fades into obscurity ... but, alas, as long as people keep paying money to see this garbage (even if only for a laugh), they're just going to keep churning them out.
BTW, hopping into the middle of a thread and saying "I didn't read any of the prior posts," and then proceeding to tell all the naysayers they're wrong because you picked up on a few keywords ... don't you think that comes off as sounding a little bit self-righteous and closed-minded? "I don't care what y'all have to say, here's my opinion, I'm right and you're wrong, so nyahhhh."
Yeah! How DARE we not love some over-hyped BS cheeseball movie! How DARE someone criticize such awesomeness!
Hmmm ... I dunno about you, but I've never run across any wookies, Imperial droids, 50-foot-tall talking robots that transform into vehicles, or dudes with adamantium skeletons and retractable knives that can pop out of their knuckles ... although my ex-girlfriend was such a miserable bish that she could suck the lifeforce out of anyone she was near with the mutant power of her bitter attitude.
However, I HAVE encountered countless imports with hideous paintjob colors, tacky vinyl graphics galore, fart can mufflers, every accessory listed in an APC catalog, and drivers who call everyone "dawg," worship "NAWWWWSSS" like it's some divine entity, wear those golf visors upside-down and backwards (or sideways), and have wet dreams about "living life a quarter mile at a time" just like Vin Diesel.
Sci-fi and ricer movies aren't even vaguely in the same genre, so you're throwing out a totally bizarre comparison. It's kind of like saying "House" is a more realistic TV show than "Dora the Explorer."
I could go on and on about the countless things that are absurd, ridiculous, cheesy, annoying, and downright perplexing about the F&F movies, but essentially the series is an idiotic fad, plain and simple. I hope to God they get overexposed to a point where everyone finally gets tired of it and it fades into obscurity ... but, alas, as long as people keep paying money to see this garbage (even if only for a laugh), they're just going to keep churning them out.
BTW, hopping into the middle of a thread and saying "I didn't read any of the prior posts," and then proceeding to tell all the naysayers they're wrong because you picked up on a few keywords ... don't you think that comes off as sounding a little bit self-righteous and closed-minded? "I don't care what y'all have to say, here's my opinion, I'm right and you're wrong, so nyahhhh."
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I hope they produce multitudes more and you sir can be a direct replacement for the overly pompous Ebert when he is gone. What do you do for entertainment? Discovery channel?
Shakerhood
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I would rather watch far fetched auto films than sit there with my wife watching chicks diss men 100 times and fall in love with them in the same hour all the while your trying not to focus on your wife/girlfriends tears soaking your buttered popcorn. Enjoy watching He's Just Not Into You or the Notebook type remakes. Ill watch far fetched car films and be entertained.
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Time to send the GF or Wife to the Movies with her Girlfriends instead of you sitting there suffering through stuff like that!
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