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New GT-40 Crate motor

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blackstangt

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I just put a brand new GT-40 "340" hp crate motor in my car, bought the timing chain cover, crank dampner, and whatever else kit, i finished the motor with ALL new parts Nothing fell in the intake, as the ford tech guy keept insisting. I now know this, because after talking to him, I ran the car and disconnected and replaced one wire at a time and it still makes a bang out the intake(meaning the valve is open), and the car still banged with every cylinder disconnected at different times, so unless more than one thing fell in, which I was persistant in making sure not one thing did, the cam timing is off. The rockers on this motor look stock and all look and feel like they were installed correctly. Is my only option to take off all of the accessories and check the timing chain? A mechanic suggested that he put shims on all of the rockers, would this have any effect, or could this be a bad idea? He also said that it may be too high of an octane(93) but we have had the timing from 10-20 degrees and nothing..............
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Please help, and how do you change the cam timing with the chain if it is off by a link or two...
 

HISSIN50

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if it is a new motor, i would be calling what ever vendor sold it and be complaining.

i would not be 'fixing' something on a crate motor. that can only lead to warranty issues, IMHO.
good luck.
 

blackstangt

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yea thats what i think, the engine is from ford's engine plant, brand new, and if ford can screw that up, im scared.
 
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I have a gt-40 crate motor in my car, and so on with the install kit. I have had excellant luck with this motor, it is very stong with 7000mi on it and now installing a procharger P1SC. I had 1 single problem with the motor when I installed it. I noticed a small oil leak coming from the drivers side valve cover. Upon investigation i found a small hairline crack in the valve cover causing it. I went back the place I ordered it from, and the boss called Ford. We both agreed that they would pay for new factory ones, so instead I bought some nice FRPP ones with the credit I got. Not quite the same magnitude of problem but still, go to the place that you got if from and let them take care of it.

Steve
 

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if you realy wana get there atention go to bbb.com if they give you problems
 

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I'm pretty sure they will take the engine back, but I may have to ship it, and i need my car! I talked to the tech guy and he made me believe that sending back the motor was no big deal, but since I have had a mechanic look at it, I dont need any more useless expenses. He's going to charge me and Ford Racing better pay shipping. Anyone have an idea on what else i can do?
 

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also can i just bring it to a ford dealer, there's one like 1 1/2 mi. from my house...
 

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id talk to the dealer and ford racing. between the two, they should figure something out. since they ship lots of stuff, some back and forth, even if you are charged, it should be much less $$ than if you did it on your own.

good luck.
 

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thats really bull, it's a ford motor, ford should have to pay for their mistakes, not me... I guess ordering a motor and thinking that because I use all brand new ford parts, my car will run right is my mistake.
 
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I find myself not really trusting anyone, new or not.. When I got my motor I went through as much as i could without pulling the heads off and checked everything down to bolt torques... Everyone makes mistakes, but I understand when you pay this much for a new motor there better not be any mistakes... I am sure an agreement will be made somehow.. Good luck...

STeve
 

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My new Ford Motorsport engine had a high pitch noise when I first cranked it. Found the rockers were shot due to lack of oiling. Found it to have a defective oil filter from the factory. Ford was very helpful and was going to replace the motor if the problem not located and repaired at their cost. Replaced the rockers, oil and filter and has been running perfect ever since. I now have about 35k on the motor with no problems.
 
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