Saleen new inlet/intake for Series II

pbm.cc said:

What I am really leaning towards is just installing cams on the Saleen! I bet since it already has boost by me adding cams, 66mm pulley, mosaleen idlers and my frpp ceramic coated shorties I will either be higher or about the same as he.
I may need a MAFia and a LMAF, plus I still have room to upgrade the intake and intercooler and heat exchanger.

I still think something is wrong other than the temp. Probably the fuel pump I would go with the twin cobra fuel pumps. Why even bother with another Focus pump.

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Putting cams in a 4.6 ohc engine is far from a cost effective way to get more power.
The cams are expensive, and labor intensive, all for minimum power.
If the engine was getting rebuilt, ya, they are probably worth the trouble, but with the engine in the car, tearing it down to a longblock would not be worth it.

Basically, if someones goals are 425rwhp+, the saleen blower setup is not the way to go, nor is it finally wise to drop loads of money on parts to make it better.
You can sell it, slap a kb or vortech on there, and easily exceed the numbers you can get with the saleen kit.

2000xp8 said:

Putting cams in a 4.6 ohc engine is far from a cost effective way to get more power.
The cams are expensive, and labor intensive, all for minimum power.
If the engine was getting rebuilt, ya, they are probably worth the trouble, but with the engine in the car, tearing it down to a longblock would not be worth it.

Basically, if someones goals are 425rwhp+, the saleen blower setup is not the way to go, nor is it finally wise to drop loads of money on parts to make it better.
You can sell it, slap a kb or vortech on there, and easily exceed the numbers you can get with the saleen kit.

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Well the Anderson cams that I was looking at cost about $630.00 maybe like $200.00 for springs and retainers. My buddy at Ford house will charge me a 6 pack and a night to use the pool and have a cook out. I already have the 66mm pulley just not installed, I already have the headers just not installed. My buddy at Gearheads in Arlington TX or Manny at HPP can dyno the car with everything installed and we will see who spent more $ and for the most performance.

See that is my thing, I am not going to spent $6k on the KB 2.6 if:
1: I have to get ride of my hood
2: I am still limited by the heat exchanger and intake on the blower
3: pulley pulley pulleys

I would much rather get a Turbo kit for about $3-4k intalled and dynoed. That is why it is very important as to WHO you know! More than WHAT you know....

I can still keep the blower cams that I will have installed on the SOHC heads and being able to use them when I upgrade to the turbo kit wich will alow me to use the stock hood and would limit me less to RWHP/RWTQ. I will only install the headers idler and pulley and twin cobra pumps as I will need the fuel either way and the idler and pulley and headers can be sold again when I install the Turbo kit.
Trick flow make a new intake that is SOMEWHAT like the Bullit and I wanted to go that route. Add the TT single blade tb and buy a built shortblock and I am done.

See, my goal for the Saleen is 550rhwp-600rwhp from the turbo kit and a built short block. Give me a year or year and a half and I will be there.

+ with a turbo kit you relive crank stress and IT SOUNDS REALLY COOL WHILE SPOOLING UP AND THE BOV! lol

Maybe for you if you are getting labor for free a turbo kit is 3-4 grand installed with a dyno run.
For anyone that has to pay for it, you are looking at leat at 6 grand, and possibly up to 9k.

Me personally i'd rather have an aftercooled vortech than most anything else. (on a 2 valve) on a 3v or 4v i'd rather have a whipple.

2000xp8 said:

Maybe for you if you are getting labor for free a turbo kit is 3-4 grand installed with a dyno run.
For anyone that has to pay for it, you are looking at leat at 6 grand, and possibly up to 9k.

Me personally i'd rather have an aftercooled vortech than most anything else. (on a 2 valve) on a 3v or 4v i'd rather have a whipple.

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My friend Lance has a turbo shop where he will fabricate the kit.
My friend Robert works fot a Diesel company that he can get any turbo parts from the dealers dirt cheap (including Turbonetics)
My friend Jason will do the labor at Ford house in Dallas.
My friend Chris or Manny will tune it for a good deal.

everything is just parts that I can find for a good price. That is why I am leaning towards it.
I rather do a 2v cause I have never built one, I have had 2 built 4v and the cams will be more noticable on the 2v.

I do like twin screw blowers but the fact remains that you COULD have slippage and Turbos just makes more power for the same amount of boost or less.

I have experimented with ever poweradder and I must say Boost from a Turbo is something you do not forget.

RedS281GT said:

I don't think the clutch is slipping. At least, it didn't smell like it was! I do have the NGK tr6's gapped at 36. Did have a small vaccume leak. It was fixed for the tune, but I will need a more permanent solution. Easy fix!

And from what everyone has posted, it seems like I dynoed my car under the worst possible conditions. No fault to Dynospeed of course! 150 degree IAT's, a heat soaked engine, and 100 degree weather in July! With all that, I still managed 345rwhp! I guess its good to know what I can be guaranteed to have during the summer months!
And I'm not a fan of bench racing, but 65 degree weather and seeing 12 -13lbs of boost might put me over the 400rwhp mark! 10hp for every 10 degrees of temp, and guessing almost 10hp for every additional pound of boost. Didn't know if those two would bleed together or not. And a question on that! My tune is based off of 10lbs of boost! When the months cool down and I do see 12-13lbs, will it cause me to run lean? And should I be concerned about how much power I see over my tune when it cools down?

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Did you do a compression test? vaccum leak test?

or a 35 shot of juice... Thats what i believe I will be doing.

I can't wait to get myne on the dyno. It took out a 14 psi turbo grand prix gtp to over a buck thirty and when we were logging it says its 20+% too rich (base tune). This was on a predator mind you and no wideband but when it's dialed in i think 400 shouldn't be a problem. only problem is there are no dyno tuners close to here, and i don't have a license for another 37 days.

Im also getting belt slip like a mofo, the mosaleen idler will be ordered before its dynoed. Still Im hittin like 12-13 psi (on the 03 cobra cluster) @ 6grand. And talk about loud, the port makes these things sound NUTS.

RedS281GT said:

Just wanted everyone know that i'm testing a new experimental intake for my Saleen. It's made by Tork Tech and the quality is amazing! I'll be taking it up to Dynospeed in Memphis for some testing in the next few weeks. Can't wait to see what numbers this thing produces! Enjoy the pics!


00 GT vert
Series II S/C
BBK long tubes & o/r x-pipe, pro 5.0, 3:55's, TT inlet, cobra TB, 66mm pulley,
90mm TB, Chicane intercooler, hand ported lower intake, SCT

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So where can we buy this intake it looks really good!