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new models and new engines....what gives?

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05MGT

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Ford seems to have a track record with releasing an "all new" car with the same ol' engine, then a year or so later releasing it with the engine it should have come with. It happened with the 500/Taurus, going to happen with the new Fusion, is happening with the 2010 Mustang, and is going to happen with the new F-150. WTF? Every other manufactuer can release a new car in its entirety. Is this some kind of cost saving thing? Because to me it sounds like it would cost more than necessary. Fors bsically is designing a new car to work with 2 different engines.....seems like more work than necessary.
 

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Don't forget the '94 with the the 5.0 and........... It is a cycle they tend to stick with.
 

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The practice is to test the waters with the quality of the vehicle first to see the public reaction, then add the upgraded power train afterward to really sell it and give the public an engine option that would allow them to increase their asking price. This isn't a ford only practice...all of the manufacturers have done it. It's a good business strategy actually. Cause we all just keep buying them.
 

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I think Ford is being cautious here and practicing its usual (successful) marketing campaign.

Here's how it goes only with a major difference Ford has no domestic rivals in its class when the story started this time around.

04 the Camaro signs off Ford pretty much wins the pony car contest by default and releases the S197 Mustang to secure the "title" if you want to call it that. 300HP old school looks technical refinements etc. you name it.

07 Everyone is happy Ford gained many new customers (read ex GM & Chrysler fans stuck w/o new vehicle options) GT500 is introduced to keep the power hungry happy further cementing the Mustang as THE Ponycar.

08-09 A slew of new models are sprinkled in to keep interest in the Mustang going while Chrysler releases the Challenger a heavywheight contender (a capable car no doubt) but nothing that the current GT500 and special models can't handle.

09-10 The Camaro will probably be released at a hefty sticker price with tons of accolades most likely due to the new chassis design thanks to GM australia and the Zeta platform, the New Mustang is introduced as well boasting updated styling and chassis/suspension tweaks retaining the 4.6L engine with perhaps a few horses squeezed out of it due to tuning/exhaust or whatever. The Challenger will probably suffer diminishing sales due to price and the usual Chrysler's problems (drivetrain, cheap plastics in critical components see Magnum, Charger, 300C)

11-13 Camaro probably is ahead in the performance envelope but it's a pricey ride so is the Challenger IF it is still around. The Mustang will still outsell the two of them due to better management of trim levels, price and popularity. Some Shelby/SVT speical model is released with an insane amount of power and the regular GT models will probably get some new drivetrain package that will push them ahead of the two contender.

Judging from how Ford handled the Mustang from day 1 this is most likely what is going to happen. It is a marketing strategy that has always worked for them and will probably continue to do so because it is a careful studied approach unlike GM and Chrysler's Oh **** let's throw enough money into one project to beat what they got and worry later about what to do. This is exactly why the Mustang made it over the years and the other alternatives faltered I see no change this time around unless of course the Big 3 go out of business but that's a different story.
 
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walter said:
04 the Camaro signs off Ford pretty much wins the pony car contest by default and releases the S197 Mustang to secure the "title" if you want to call it that. 300HP old school looks technical refinements etc. you name it.

07 Everyone is happy Ford gained many new customers (read ex GM & Chrysler fans stuck w/o new vehicle options) GT500 is introduced to keep the power hungry happy further cementing the Mustang as THE Ponycar.

08-09 A slew of new models are sprinkled in to keep interest in the Mustang going while Chrysler releases the Challenger a heavywheight contender (a capable car no doubt) but nothing that the current GT500 and special models can't handle.

09-10 The Camaro will probably be released at a hefty sticker price with tons of accolades most likely due to the new chassis design thanks to GM australia and the Zeta platform, the New Mustang is introduced as well boasting updated styling and chassis/suspension tweaks retaining the 4.6L engine with perhaps a few horses squeezed out of it due to tuning/exhaust or whatever. The Challenger will probably suffer diminishing sales due to price and the usual Chrysler's problems (drivetrain, cheap plastics in critical components see Magnum, Charger, 300C)

11-13 Camaro probably is ahead in the performance envelope but it's a pricey ride so is the Challenger IF it is still around. The Mustang will still outsell the two of them due to better management of trim levels, price and popularity. Some Shelby/SVT speical model is released with an insane amount of power and the regular GT models will probably get some new drivetrain package that will push them ahead of the two contender.
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14-15 GM once again Cancels the Camaro to concentrate on cornering the 3 cyl hybrid market

walter said:
Judging from how Ford handled the Mustang from day 1 this is most likely what is going to happen. It is a marketing strategy that has always worked for them and will probably continue to do so because it is a careful studied approach unlike GM and Chrysler.
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DRIVE FORD! :SNSign:
 

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From the spy shots of the new Mustang, I can't help but think they may have ruined the design but will wait and see. I do like the Camaro however and I anticipate prices will be competitive because they've clearly saved money on the interior.
 
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