Sorry about that I was partially right and partially wrong. Check out this link
http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/faq/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=3
But with a price tag of $15.5K I honestly dont think it is a great deal.... For 15.5K you could buy a great car that is complete!
http://www.dynacornclassicbodies.com/faq/afmviewfaq.asp?faqid=3
But with a price tag of $15.5K I honestly dont think it is a great deal.... For 15.5K you could buy a great car that is complete!
The Dynacorn goes for $15,995 fob Oxnard California. (Does "fob" mean that shipping is extra?) That includes the doors and the trunk lid, but no front clip. The Hot Rod story points out that these unibodies are not "ready for paint" from the factory, so in addition to running down all the bits and pieces needed for a full car, you are also looking at a hundred hours of blocking and panel fitment.
Your other option is the typical project car also in need of a complete teardown. Rusted-out '67 fb cores seem to go for $5000 and up. Although the do-it-yourselfer never includes labor in the equation, taking a $5000 core cost and $75 to $100 per hour for a bodyman will buy you 110 to 145 hours of labor to bring that rusty core up to the level of an as-delivered Dynacorn unibody -- i.e., still in need of blocking and panel fitment.
Putting the two options side-by-side, they look pretty even. The tipping point depends on individual tastes.
On the plus side for the gennie, you have a factory-correct foundation underneath all the patch panels, making it more likely that other components will fit without a lot of massaging. You also have a VIN, which is not an insignificant benefit. The advantage of possibly having a reusable set of fenders and hood, vs. all the patch panels and welding that the gennie will need, is probably a push.
On the plus side for the Dynacorn, you have an all-new car when you're done. A plus, to some (i.e., me), is the complete freedom from factory equipment. Painless wiring harnesses, for example, and custom interior. If you're like me and you hate the OE shocktowers, and you want some huge tires, in the 335 mm range, you could go with an Art Morrison Muscle Car full frame chassis. These use fifth gen ("C5") Corvette running gear up front, with rack & pinion, and a coil sprung 9" in the rear (or air springs if you like). According to another story in this same Hot Rod magazine, on an over-the-top '67 Mustang street rod, AME has just prototyped a version of this chassis specifically adapted to the '67 Mustang. Add an aluminum block Cleveland with 428 ci and CHI 3v heads, good for 650-700 hp, and you've got a Ferrari killer for $40,000 - $50,000. That was once the high end of the Classic Stang hobby, but with 351 ci Mach I's going for the mid 50's now -- or 327 Powerglide Crapmaros for that matter -- it no longer is.
Your other option is the typical project car also in need of a complete teardown. Rusted-out '67 fb cores seem to go for $5000 and up. Although the do-it-yourselfer never includes labor in the equation, taking a $5000 core cost and $75 to $100 per hour for a bodyman will buy you 110 to 145 hours of labor to bring that rusty core up to the level of an as-delivered Dynacorn unibody -- i.e., still in need of blocking and panel fitment.
Putting the two options side-by-side, they look pretty even. The tipping point depends on individual tastes.
On the plus side for the gennie, you have a factory-correct foundation underneath all the patch panels, making it more likely that other components will fit without a lot of massaging. You also have a VIN, which is not an insignificant benefit. The advantage of possibly having a reusable set of fenders and hood, vs. all the patch panels and welding that the gennie will need, is probably a push.
On the plus side for the Dynacorn, you have an all-new car when you're done. A plus, to some (i.e., me), is the complete freedom from factory equipment. Painless wiring harnesses, for example, and custom interior. If you're like me and you hate the OE shocktowers, and you want some huge tires, in the 335 mm range, you could go with an Art Morrison Muscle Car full frame chassis. These use fifth gen ("C5") Corvette running gear up front, with rack & pinion, and a coil sprung 9" in the rear (or air springs if you like). According to another story in this same Hot Rod magazine, on an over-the-top '67 Mustang street rod, AME has just prototyped a version of this chassis specifically adapted to the '67 Mustang. Add an aluminum block Cleveland with 428 ci and CHI 3v heads, good for 650-700 hp, and you've got a Ferrari killer for $40,000 - $50,000. That was once the high end of the Classic Stang hobby, but with 351 ci Mach I's going for the mid 50's now -- or 327 Powerglide Crapmaros for that matter -- it no longer is.
Yes.
This body, although new, is hardly up to OE fit and finish. It is not ready for paint.
I think these bodies are great- it may be a 'reproduction' but lets look at these examples:
1) 67 mustang with a I6 is bought from some guy who had it sitting out back for the last 12 years- so you end up having to replace the cowl, the floors, the fendors, quarters, frt. & rear valence, a door or two, some glass and chrome, add your shelby fiberglass hood, fix the shoddy wiring, replace the running gear to V8 specs, etc, etc, etc....
2) Buy new 67 body 'B', find a donor with a decent front clip, windows, and suspension, possibly buy some NOS Ford Parts, plus all the misc things you had to do in the first example.
So how much more of the first example is an original 'mustang' vs the second? To me, there both mustangs.
1) 67 mustang with a I6 is bought from some guy who had it sitting out back for the last 12 years- so you end up having to replace the cowl, the floors, the fendors, quarters, frt. & rear valence, a door or two, some glass and chrome, add your shelby fiberglass hood, fix the shoddy wiring, replace the running gear to V8 specs, etc, etc, etc....
2) Buy new 67 body 'B', find a donor with a decent front clip, windows, and suspension, possibly buy some NOS Ford Parts, plus all the misc things you had to do in the first example.
So how much more of the first example is an original 'mustang' vs the second? To me, there both mustangs.
I suppose you could go through DMV and have them retitle it as a "rebody" if that is possable then swaping VINs is legal. Cutting a VIN from a junk body and putting it on anouther without going through DMV is not legal I dont care how you look at it. And not telling or passing off a repo body as an original is not legal or moral.
The ammount of work to bring back an original or buy a new one to me is not the point, spend your money on the best body you can find. The Dynacorn is still not a Mustang it just looks like one, it was not built by Ford....
Rant over...
The ammount of work to bring back an original or buy a new one to me is not the point, spend your money on the best body you can find. The Dynacorn is still not a Mustang it just looks like one, it was not built by Ford....
Rant over...
I have built custom bikes and yes you can get them titled,some states are harder than others. They come with a # already and MSOs and they are also available with a Manufactures title and a 17 digit VIN. MSOed bikes are more often titled as special construction of the year they are titled. Can you imagine trying to get a 2008 special contruction Dynacorn car to pass smog!!!!!! Because it may (or maybe not) be subject to it.
FF Cobras are the same way the kit come with MSOs.
Here in NC on spec const stuff you have to show reciepts for all parts and you are taxed accordingly (Highway Rape Tax), plop down $50K of reciepts for your Dynacorn and hold on...its gonna get REAL painfull!!!!!
FF Cobras are the same way the kit come with MSOs.
Here in NC on spec const stuff you have to show reciepts for all parts and you are taxed accordingly (Highway Rape Tax), plop down $50K of reciepts for your Dynacorn and hold on...its gonna get REAL painfull!!!!!
I think there a good idea, the amount of usable cars are dwindling... Further more you wouldn't feel bad cutting apart one of those. I know there are people who see my car and with the amount farely ireversable mods and think its a shame what i did to a faily solid fastback.
I dont know if its true but i heard you can order them with mini tubs and other little thinge done to them. Woulb be neat to have it come to you fully seemwelded and ready for fat tires and aftermarket suspension.
I dont know if its true but i heard you can order them with mini tubs and other little thinge done to them. Woulb be neat to have it come to you fully seemwelded and ready for fat tires and aftermarket suspension.
Street rod builders (at least the do-it-yourself guys) do this all the time. It can either be done by registering the car as a "special construction" or you can actually buy a title from one of a zillion vendors who advertise them and then re-activate the old title as an original. BTW, did you know that in California, you can only build one "from scratch" motorcycle that does not meet EPA stabdards in your lifetime? Big name builders are feeling the pinch and at least one (Jesse James/ West Coast Choppers) has had to pay a huge fine.
i believe it is the same way in texas, at least that is what the guy that works with me said.
Body wise, it is a no brainer. I am just finishing mine, and it is way more expensive to pay to have patch panels put in. The body prep is going to be about the same. If I had the choice, I'd go the dynacorn way. I'd want to see a (shell) car up close before buying.
I like the idea of having the ep coating on the insides of the frame rails etc.
You would require a donor car for all the interior parts to make it work well expense wise.
I like the idea of having the ep coating on the insides of the frame rails etc.
You would require a donor car for all the interior parts to make it work well expense wise.
To me that is really the heart of the matter. If you sell and try to deceive the buyer, you are doing something wrong. That is why it is illegal as well.
Unfortunately no law can stop evil people from doing something immoral. I have seen many fiberglass/bondo crap abominations - but hey, they weren't reVINned!! It doesn't make it less immoral just because it isn't against the law. It is the deceit that is wrong, not reVINing a body.
I would have absolutely no qualms with buying a dynacorn with a VIN that came from a disintegrated car, but to some people originality is everything. I would actually prefer a dynacorn body to a 40 year old body. I also would never worry about reVINing a car that I was planning on selling. As long as the seller and buyer are both happy and know exactly what the car is, there is no problem IMO.
I believe that we who enjoy building cars should be fighting against restrictive legislation that hurts hot rodding.