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New numbers with the port matched 75mm TB

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WHITE94COBRA

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This debate had gone on for long enough, I had conflicting numbers the past few times I switched TB's from 70 - 75mm, well in conclusion I lost a little tq and response with the 75 but gained a nice little 5 hp up top. Now I was reading and writing in another thread and realized I never port matched my elbow to the 75 so hmmmm. Ok I got a 75mm ported edel elbow and went to work, Not only did I gain a nice 5tq spike down low but I gained 1 more hp up top so a nice round 6hp!! I couldnt get my throttle response up to par with the 70mm but I just proved myself wrong in a couple ways:
1. Good power and tq on an otherwise stock shortblock.
2. Throttle body size does make a difference down low
3. I did lose throttle response ( not a huge deal), and with the proper tune can and will get it back.
Ok so now that I have done the research, so far most are correct, stock motor with stock top end doesnt benefit from the 75mm, h/c/i cars can and will benefit from it, the 70 mm still has more than enough to offer. Mind you all as well, this has been an ongoing debate with me and my friends. My buddy Steve said go with the 75mm from the get go I tried then went against it because I thought I was right with the 70mm, (sorry Steve I was wrong), but I was right by saying that it would not benefit a stock motor (stock h/c/i car) a 65 or 70 was much better. Well cleared up lots of my confusion. But I got proven wrong in the process which I hate, but ohh well. I am now wiser than Grasshopper
 

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No shocker to me Thanks for sharing your results. Did you have to add more fuel with the 75mm to get the a/f right? What i'm asking is, did the extra air from the 75mm lean you out a little? Now get some track times which are WAY more important than a chassis dyno.

I should order a 90mm tb now, but funds are low for that
 
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Good to hear your combo benefited from it.
 

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YESSSS you should have just sold the elbow and got a trick flow elbow. Its already 75mm.
 

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Leaned out up top, added about 5 lbs fuel pressure to bring it back to normal. And I have both elbows, a 70 and a 75. I have honestly never been to the track with this car, I'm building it more for auto X than for straight line speed, Thus the reason my whole suspension is changing, also FYI do not try to do the watts link in your garage, or without some type of suspension guru on your side; I ended up having to put my car back to stock, and i'll be paying alot to have it fixed and put on perfectly. I wont do something on my car if its not the best or done perfectly.
 

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I bought this 75 this Winter and have yet to add it as I was wondering if it would be worthwhile....I run a Fox set-up though...and Im still runing 19s..I have 24s but was gonna add both at once and re-dyno...that hasn't happened yet...
Maybe I'll throw it on this weekend and see what gives...I add 5 lbs FP as I was curious if it would lean it out...your results kinda answered that...
Mike....whatya think???

 

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Andy, are you all set up with a fox conversion? Remember to dremel port your cobra inlet to match the 75mm. I think you'll see a slight gain, but it won't be earth shattering. I don't know if you'll even feel it, but you should see it on a dyno or the track. It won't slow you down though.
 

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I been running the Fox since last year....I think your correct as I was thinking along the same lines...thats why I didn't throw it on...But after reading Mike's results It made me wanna just for kicks..as it's just sitting there..
I was more leary of how the AF would change and seeing Mike's info kinda solidified that...Roger that, on the upper opening..Thanks for your input....
 
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