maybe i'll shell out the coin then.....if they suck imo, then ur buyin them off of me? + i don't have a lifted truck on 38s - by the time you apply the brakes once or twice on that big SOB, they're nice and toasty. I dunno, I had em on my Jeep and the feel sucked and had to put so much pressure down on the pedal - no brake dust tho lmao! BTW, which model of hawks did ya use nasty?