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New Springs - Now front end sits up too high

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notny41

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I figure this will lower itself with time as the springs settle, but I've had them on for about 6 months now and still sit up higher than I'd like it to.

Are there any kind of clamps a guy can put on the coils to shorten them about an inch or so?

Thanks - P
 

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I cut the front coils to get the ride height I want. There are several techniques. If you search there are plenty of write ups on it.
 

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springs/upper arms

I put new coils on my 67 a few years back and had same problem,Mustang Plus 620 springs if I remember right. What I did was to do the Shelby a-arm relocation. I know someone out there has a detalied description they can provide. Essentialy just drill new holes for upper arm 1" lower. I then cut thin pieces of 1/2 steel round stock and welded/filled the old holes. Many people don't do this step, but I thought it wise. Car sits lower and handles better.
 
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remove them, cut 1/4 coil and reinstall them.
dont forget when you change the ride height you should get it re-aligned
 

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grego37 said:
remove them, cut 1/4 coil and reinstall them.
dont forget when you change the ride height you should get it re-aligned
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exactly!

cut a 1/4 at a time then let it settle a day or two and if needed...do it again
 

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notny41 said:
I figure this will lower itself with time as the springs settle, but I've had them on for about 6 months now and still sit up higher than I'd like it to.

Are there any kind of clamps a guy can put on the coils to shorten them about an inch or so?

Thanks - P
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Before you start cutting - are you driving the car, or has it been sitting idle since the springs were installed? I ask because sometimes the springs won't settle until the suspension "works" them a bit.

Also, how are your rear springs? If the rear is sitting low, that might need to be addressed to get the car to sit the way you want.
 

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latamud said:
I cut the front coils to get the ride height I want. There are several techniques. If you search there are plenty of write ups on it.
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Yep, get the hacksaw and a couple of six packs out. This is an all day job to do it right.

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Yep, get the hacksaw and a couple of six packs out. This is an all day job to do it right.

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A hacksaw? I can't imagine using a hacksaw to cut them, but if that's all you've got...I'd beg, borrow or rent an abrasive cutoff saw or even a torch. I know most of the self-proclaimed engineers here are horrified at the thought of using a torch to cut springs, but none other than Herb Adams recommends it in his book, and I'd bet my left...arm that he's at least as sharp as anyone on the planet when it comes to suspension.
 

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I put all new coils, leafs, and shocks last fall. I have been driving it quite a bit. I figure that they should have settled by now.

Worst case scenario I will take the springs out and cut them down with a cut-off wheel on my grinder, but for now I went to Checker and got some "Coil Spring Locks". These are basically what look to be two mini muffler clamps which squeeze a couple of the coils together.

I'll measure before and after heights and post my results.

P
 

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A hacksaw? I can't imagine using a hacksaw to cut them, but if that's all you've got...I'd beg, borrow or rent an abrasive cutoff saw or even a torch. I know most of the self-proclaimed engineers here are horrified at the thought of using a torch to cut springs, but none other than Herb Adams recommends it in his book, and I'd bet my left...arm that he's at least as sharp as anyone on the planet when it comes to suspension.
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The hacksaw remark was a little crude. Used a die grinder on mine.

However, did still drink the six packs!

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zookeeper

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Amen to that! If my car doensn't get done soon, I'm going to need rehab!
 

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Amen to that! If my car doensn't get done soon, I'm going to need rehab!
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Zoo, how much longer? It is time or is it money or perhaps both?

You got to love this stuff.

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HistoricMustang said:
The hacksaw remark was a little crude. Used a die grinder on mine.
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would a small electric die grinder work?
 

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HistoricMustang said:
Zoo, how much longer? It is time or is it money or perhaps both?

You got to love this stuff.

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It's both. Lately I've been coaching my son's Tee-Ball team, doing stuff around the house and trying to get something done on the car. My garage is full, so I have to move the wife's Corvette out, plus the dirt bikes and mower each time I need to work on the car. It's really not that bad and the wife has been helping me by keeping our son occupied at least one day per weekend. If that's not enough, I recently got promoted at work, and since it's more responsibilty and I haven't got a routine yet, I'm stressed out a bit about that. But as far as the car goes, I want to keep the quality as high as I can, and that means that when I get burnt out, I take a break rather than compromise just to get it done. I recently sold my unfinished model A hot rod to my brother to help buy a set of Weber carbs for the clone. The guys at Inglese say that the 44 IDA's are a good choice for a driver, but I'd really like to talk to someone with Weber experience first, since that's a ton of money for something I don't know much about. But, I have a goal of getting the thing back on the road by the April Nites car show in Redding for '06, since it'll fall around my b-day.
 

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Pbum5 said:
would a small electric die grinder work?
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Absolutley. Spring steel really isn't that hard, it's just "tough". You could easily cut it with a hacksaw as Historic said, but I'm too lazy for that. If you have a supply of abrasive wheels for your Dremel (or whatever you have), go for it! In my opinion, people think they need the latest and greatest tools to build a car. It's not the tools, it's the brain of the person using the tool that counts. Not to sound arrogant, but I recently painted my car for the first time (see my garage) and because money was tight, I was forced to buy one gun to do it all. Every book and every painter on the planet will tell you that is just asking for trouble. But I had no choice, so I bought a $120 gun, a $25 regulator for the gun, a spare tip for the clear and went for it. Mind you, I plumbed the garage via Jon Kosmoski's advice, and bought a quality regulator/filter unit to give the gun (and me) a fighting chance, but I didn't run out and blow $400+ just because I read it on an internet site. I'm extremely pleased with the results, and really beleive you can do a fine job on any part of your car with budget tools.
 

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Well, I got the spring clamps on and they were just what doctor ordered!!!

The car sits perfectly now.

I forgot to measure the before height until after I had one side done. After how much of a pain in the ass it was to get them on I wasn't about to take them back off just to measure.

I ended up using a couple of vice grips to pinch the coils down and then I could get the nuts on the bolts.

Best $13 I ever spent.

I'll tell you what though. It was easier than taking the coils out and cutting them.

me =
 
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dont use a torch.
use either a air powered cut off saw
or electric cut off saw.
and 2 six-packs
 
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