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O Tranny gurus, I implore your help!

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Philippe

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Here's the problem. Since this morning, my automatic tranny won't shift pass 2nd. When I left for work, everything was fine, then a few blocks from home, it had trouble shifting to 3rd, finally did with a fair bit of noise then I immediately lost 3rd totally.

The history is that the tranny has been slipping quite a bit, starting last summer (car was stored last winter). It would sometime take a long time shifting from 2nd to 3rd, and most of the time it would slip (RPM would sometime jump a thousand or more) when it did. It would slip between 1st and 2nd too. And 3rd and OD. When I would stop, it would shift back to 1st with a jerk and a loud metallic noise. By the way, since this morning, it shifts back to 1st quite gracefully, no more jerks or bangs.

Now the details of the current ailment. I still have reverse, functions completely normally. I've tried with the engine/tranny hot and or cold. No 3rd gear. Tried gentle acceleration, WOT acceleration and in between. Same thing. The 1-2, 2-1 shifts seems quite normal. The MLPS has been changed October 2002, so very recently. I've driven less then 20K miles since then. Somebody asked about the tranny fluid. It was changed back in October 2002. Level is fine, looks fine, smells like a bad fire the day after.

One more advice I received was to pull the codes. Ok, fine. How do I do that? Do I need a special code reader? Can I make a home made one? How much do they usually cost? Where do I connect it? At the EEC-IV service port or somewhere on the harness. Basically I would need a "Ford code pulling for Dummies."

At first when it happened, I thought it had finally died and it was time to swap a T5 in there. But if I could delay that until the winter, it would better fit my budget.

Any help, advice, comment will be appreciated.
 
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T5 swap.... or better yet, grab a TKO
 
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stang2004 said:
T5 swap.... or better yet, grab a TKO
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Yes, I'd love too, and if the tranny is DOA unrecoverable short of a rebuild, I will. But if I can make it last thru the summer...
 
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Philippe said:
Yes, I'd love too, and if the tranny is DOA unrecoverable short of a rebuild, I will. But if I can make it last thru the summer...
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why waste money on a rebuild, if u only want it to hold out untill the summer? put that money toward the new tranny...
 

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i'm doing a t5 swap in mine... i had tha same sort of prob in my AOD... it was rebuilt just 20,000 ago and all of a sudden i lost OD, then 2nd and 3rd tha next day... reverse still is fine, but all i had was first... so i said F#CK IT! and am gettin it changed to a T5, yay
 
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stang2004 said:
why waste money on a rebuild, if u only want it to hold out untill the summer? put that money toward the new tranny...
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Dude, we are saying the same thing

If the slush box needs a rebuild, then I'll toss it and get a manual tranny in there. But if it's something simpler, cheaper then that to get it working, even if it's not perfect, then I'll try to last the summer.
 
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Philippe said:
Dude, we are saying the same thing

If the slush box needs a rebuild, then I'll toss it and get a manual tranny in there. But if it's something simpler, cheaper then that to get it working, even if it's not perfect, then I'll try to last the summer.
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haha musta misread it bro...thought if it was a cheap rebuild u would get it done my 94 was losing the O/D when i sold it.... Ford's auto trannies are horrible..nothing but bad experiences
 
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Regarding codes...

The local Canadian Tire (kinda like Pep Boys, but more expensive, with less parts and tools and dumber staff) has this code reader :

http://www.iequus.com/item.asp?cid=10&pid=3145

For $50 CDN, so it's cheaper to buy that then to get the codes read by the dealer ($80 CDN).

But I was wondering. I read the "Quick Guide", and they say, engine off, key to on, plugged into the code reader port then hit the "Test" button. With nothing running, how can it tell if there's something wrong from the tranny? If it's the MLPS switch, it won't be doing anything, just sitting there on Park.


Plus, if all is well, does it send an a-ok type code or the screen just stays blank?

Thank you.

Philippe
 
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Ok, I read the instructions and I see how the code reader might pick up a faulty sensor even when stopped, plus how the EEC stores code while running and those codes can be retrieve afterward. Cool!

So, if I don't get any tranny related fault codes, then it's definitely stripped/ripped/shredded/dead internal hardware?

Philippe
 
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ttt
 
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mine did the same thing when the TV cable fell out of the grommet, had to get a rebuild
 
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Kiknads said:
mine did the same thing when the TV cable fell out of the grommet, had to get a rebuild
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Ok, please excuse my dismal ignorance, but how can the TV cable (that's the kickdown cable, right?) coming off cause enough damage to necesitate a rebuild of the tranny? Trying to find what was wrong, I did notice that my kickdown cable had come off.

Thank you!

Philippe
 
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