official afr 165 vs trick flow twisted wedge poll

payupsucka · Dec 9, 2005

which one do you go with?

me tfs for life

Grn92LX · Dec 9, 2005

T minus 1 day until this thread is a 2+ page flame war.

I use twisted wedges on my car but I would have no problems running a done right prepped afr 185 or an afr 205 on it.

9 Deuce GT · Dec 10, 2005

This is gonna get ugly!

Anywho, I am currently running AFR 165's, but I would not hesitate to run TW's on another combo. Both heads are great, yet not comparable.

5spd GT · Dec 10, 2005

Out of the box performance and power under the curve - AFR's get my vote.

Portability and price - Trickflow would get my vote.

mustangramair · Dec 10, 2005

I have TFS twisted wedge and love them, that is why i voted for them. As for AFR i have heard nothing but good things so i would run those if i didn't get my TFS.

Modular2v · Dec 10, 2005

if the afr185s were a choice i would have voted for them....they honestly should be a choice seeing that they are only like 70$ higher in price

TT91 · Dec 10, 2005

5spd GT said:
Portability and price - Trickflow would get my vote.

Trick flows are more portable then AFRs?....

TW for me.

5spd GT · Dec 10, 2005

TT91 said:
Trick flows are more portable then AFRs?....

TW for me.

Yep, more porting meat.

Modular2v · Dec 10, 2005

TT91 said:
Trick flows are more portable then AFRs?....

TW for me.

yes....the ports on the afrs are nearly perfect right out of the box

CoupedUp · Dec 10, 2005

Based on all the relative testing I've read I'm not able to vote yet because I don't know the rest of the combo crapola

AFR - TW
1.90" - 2.02" valve
.750" - .625" deck thickness
$1400 - $1100

5spd GT · Dec 10, 2005

How much lift can the TW head take? I know the AFR's aren't meant for anything over .550 lift. AFR's go for $1285 assembled.

Grn92LX · Dec 10, 2005

5spd GT said:
How much lift can the TW head take? I know the AFR's aren't meant for anything over .550 lift. AFR's go for $1285 assembled.

Depends if you're talking about stock pistons or not. If you are, it depends on the cam The stock junk TW springs are good for .540" lift. They're 110lbs on the seat if I recall. My old cam was 224/228* 547/536 and cleared fine on stock slugs with the heads milled .020". (Not that the .050" specs tell us much in terms of p to v clearance but its what most people look at when looking @ camshafts) You can thoretically run .700" lift and it can clear with the proper events or you can run .499" and have it hit. Depends.

I paid $935 for my TW heads years ago but since then the price of aluminum has gone up.

bluevenom867 · Dec 10, 2005

TFS,but Track Heats....

And our race heads are TFSR's

btw,this is a cursed topic

:SNSign:

5spd GT · Dec 10, 2005

Grn92LX said:
Depends if you're talking about stock pistons or not. If you are, it depends on the cam The stock junk TW springs are good for .540" lift. They're 110lbs on the seat if I recall. My old cam was 224/228* 547/536 and cleared fine on stock slugs with the heads milled .020". (Not that the .050" specs tell us much in terms of p to v clearance but its what most people look at when looking @ camshafts) You can thoretically run .700" lift and it can clear with the proper events or you can run .499" and have it hit. Depends.

I paid $935 for my TW heads years ago but since then the price of aluminum has gone up.

I was talking about the peak lift the spring can take on the head. Not talking about cams. I was going to use it as a price comparison. The AFR's are $1285 with the .550 lift springs. Just wondering what the now-a-day going price was for TW's.

vikingpower · Dec 10, 2005

5spd GT said:
I was talking about the peak lift the spring can take on the head. Not talking about cams. I was going to use it as a price comparison. The AFR's are $1285 with the .550 lift springs. Just wondering what the now-a-day going price was for TW's.

I paid $1137 for my TW's shipped to my door, this summer. From Summit. If AFR's were closer in price you could compare the two... but paying more for CNC'd heads aint worth it when todays casting technology works pretty damn good. Just cast them correctly at the foundry and you dont have to do all the fancy machining. Especially for street/strip hardware, it isnt necessary except where you're fighting your competitors for every last HP within a strict set of rules.

5spd GT · Dec 11, 2005

So afr's are about $1285 shipped and TW's are about 1,130 shipped. Not that big of a difference in price. On my budget I still went with AFR's. They are both excellent heads to say the least.

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