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jordanvraptor

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Got my 2.75 Kenne Bell press on today and just had to install it immediately. I think I did the removal and install of new sc and idler pulleys in record time. NOT quite as fast as the Horsepower guys on Spike TV are able to do it, but fast for me... Need to fine tune with the Predator as it was pinging bad. These 2.75's are intense. Added fuel and pulled timing, still pinging a little in 5th and 6th gear. Gonna play with it some more tomorrow. Only so much I could do before work. Also, going to add my cold air intake system. By all accounts it is a pain to install but should give a lot more air to the blower than my drop in K&N. Once I get it street safe I think I'll rent some dyno time.

Joe, if you have any ideas on where to set the fuel and spark advance parameters, drop me a pm. Right now with a little pinging in 5th and 6th, I've pulled 10% timing on othe 2-4 and 4-7k ranges. I added 10% fuel in the 2-4K range and 15% in the 4-7K range.

I'm thinking of going 15% fuel in the 2-4K range as well. I think I'll pick up some NGK TR6's as well. Even if this thing is pig rich it beats being stock...
 

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How about the catback? Is it still off? And is the power superior than when you had the 2.93 and all the other stuff?
 

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Still have the stock catback on. The accelleration in 3rd and 4th gears seems to be better than when I had the 2.93. But, since I've been at stock level for a while, my SOTP meter may need recalibrating...
 
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jordan, sorry for the latest flake... you should see my car right now

it's like a wet 18 year old girl
 

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tarch said:
you should see my car right now

it's like a wet 18 year old girl
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Hmmm so it means it looks good but got no grunt!!!
 
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Darkness said:
Hmmm so it means it looks good but got no grunt!!!
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it's got grunt, but the downstairs is drenched in a type of fluid
 

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I knew you'd be feeling the need for speed soon Jordan.....wait a second I think I hear something.................oh ok its just the track calling you P.S I hope the air fuel ratio and timing that im running with my predator will help you out for a good starting point, it should work pretty good for you,it took me alot of dyno runs to get that set up....you know I wouldnt give that up for just anyone...Now you gotta promice you'll take it easy on me the next time are paths cross at the track
 

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Our race would have been closer if you hadn't red lighted.... hehe
 

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jordanvraptor said:
Our race would have been closer if you hadn't red lighted.... hehe
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Ooooopps....my bad
 

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Played with the Predator rune a little more today. Got timing back up to 20-21 degrees. Gonna go to the dyno Monday morning as I've decided not to install the CAI.
 

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jordanvraptor said:
I've decided not to install the CAI.
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Why?
 
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Jordan, let us know what your numbers are. I'm curious to see what it can do without intake and exhaust.
 

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I'm going back and forth on the CAI, mainly I'm regretting buying it cause now that I have it, I see how much of a pain it will be to install. Also, there is the issue of water getting inside the fenderwell where the filter sits very low... Maybe I'll try installing it before I decide to get rid of it. Right now it looks like a hassle though.

Dyno numbers are lower than what I thought, guess the intake and especially exhaust really cork things up. Dynoed at 83 degrees, minimal cool down.
Best run was 409 rwhp and 453 rwtq with A/F solidly 11 or below. Timing is maxed on the Predator and datalogging showed it at 19 or 20 degrees at WOT.

So, looking around for a catback, 3 incher for future high power possibilities. CAI..... Still up in the air to try the one I got or get another engine bay filter.
 

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Not bad #s considering you motors trying to breath threw a straw and exhail threw a couple of little bigger straws.... ....hey Jordan like I said I might be offing my borla stingers,and going all stock bumper to bumper....NOT....J/K...All Kidding aside I might be going with some Bassani's to try to tone it down a little...not sure if i'm going to part with my stingers or not ...just some fruit for thought
 

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If it gets quieter, it gets slower..... If you want it just quiet enough to not get kicked you could try this. Go to an exhaust shop and have them cut out your stock cats off of your stock H pipe. They could them use two of them to make inserts into your X pipe cutout area. That might provide enough resistance/quieting to keep you in the game past 10 pm.

Just another crazy idea for the raptor.
 
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At least you made it over the 400 RWHP mark.

How did you data-log the max timing? With the predator?
 

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jordanvraptor said:
If it gets quieter, it gets slower..... If you want it just quiet enough to not get kicked you could try this. Go to an exhaust shop and have them cut out your stock cats off of your stock H pipe. They could them use two of them to make inserts into your X pipe cutout area. That might provide enough resistance/quieting to keep you in the game past 10 pm.

Just another crazy idea for the raptor.
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Thanks Jordan, thats a great idea,but I really like my bassani x-pipe, Guess I want it all ..with no comprimise
 

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Guess I want it all ..with no comprimise
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Where are the headers then?
 

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DarkVador said:
At least you made it over the 400 RWHP mark.

How did you data-log the max timing? With the predator?
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Yes, I used the diganostic function. I guess I need a custom tune to go any higher... That will have to wait till I figure out intake and exhaust options.
 

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Oh, I got my "WW2 P51" plates on finally.... Also, when I washed the car I found out it is runing really rich.... Soot all over the back end..
 
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