Outnumbered By Idiots

I do agree but the kids, and others that suddenly decide to get a fox or sn95 to tinker with are going to Google for the answers to their problems.
I read a lot of the questions asked here and you either get someone that can't put a sentence together or are looking for the answer they want to hear.
Someone that wants to belong to a group that is not fb abusive will find a place like here, I did. I'm not going to put up with abuse, I will poke fun at ya, but I can take it too.
New information? Naw, maybe a easier, better way to build a mouse trap.
Get it? Mouse trap? Oh, never mind.
 
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I really don't know why forums are dying off.

Well, you see, a lot of the forums out there REALLY suck at this point.

I'm on F150forum.com and I don't even like it, because EVERYONE who asks a fuel-economy question gets flamed with "Should've bought a Prius!", 99% of the 09+ owners there are "V8 or Ecoboost or else!/3.7 and 3.5n/a trucks can't tow!" chodes, and a large portion of the 09-14 owners are into the whole lifted to near useless, with fugly wheels and fender flares bro-dozer vibe. You can't get ANY decent tech advice on most subjects, because every single headlight thread derails to "get OEM HIDs or else, all others suck" (well, news flash, so do the factory non-HID lights, and not everyone has $1000+ to sink into used factory HIDs), every engine thread devolves into an Ecoboost vs. Coyote argument (in the meantime, the n/a 3.5 and 3.7L guys like myself laugh about how the only two tech threads on our trucks are about how many miles we've gotten out of them with zero issues and fuel economy comparisons), and the transmission threads are all full of misinformation on how to use the transmission properly for towing/hauling (including a truly :leghump:tarded group that refuses to use "tow/haul" mode because of the decrease in fuel economy even while towing heavy loads) and/or fluid change intervals. I pretty much stick around because of the truly epic threads such as:
http://www.f150forum.com/f38/can-sync-default-bluetooth-audio-228929/
and http://www.f150forum.com/f38/best-modifications-under-50-a-166689/

I'm also on MustangII.net, which is, at this point, an online ghost town. It used to be the most active Mustang II forum on the web by leaps and bounds with dozens of posts on any given day. Repeat site outages, including one that lasted a year and resulted in a mass migration to a Facebook group have dropped it to about a post every other week, which really sucks, because honestly, even if I didn't own a II anymore, I'd still love to see what those guys are doing because they're the most imaginative car-guys I know.

I was one of the founding members and original moderators on Allfordmustangs.com back when Scott Halliday and Dale Brown still ran it. It was freaking amazing, the most community-oriented forum site I'd ever been a part of. In spite of several disagreements I had with Scott over the years, we always managed to work through it and I was on staff there for a decade off and on (I was the only moderator there to ever be perma-banned, then un-banned, and made a moderator again). Unfortunately Scott's health deteriorated badly a few years back and he sold the site to one of the big conglomerates that bought a lot of the forums around that time (that was actually his biggest nightmare when AFM was new. He feared having to sell out down the road, and told the staffers that made it to WFC6 in 2003 that he never wanted to do that.) because he could no longer run it day-to-day. In all irony, back when AFM was new, AFM staff saw Stangnet as our biggest competition, and were always trying to be better than SN in every way, this site was our yardstick for our success. Now the AFM way is dead and Stangnet prevails, and is the only forum I participate in that I actually enjoy. In the end, I was perma-banned by one of the jackwagons the corporation brought on as a moderator for being one of the leaders of the 4.6 forum "sammich crew".

MSD's tech forum is a joke, ESPECIALLY the MSD technicians that participate there (though it looks like that started when Holley bought out MSD). It makes me really wish I'd spent a few hundred more for a FAST or Holley EFI system, but hell, too late now.

Blueovalfun.net and Stangcountry.com both died horrible deaths (I was a founding member/staffer of both, even designed the forum logo for Stangcountry), the T-bird forum I used to be on was only interested in you if you owned a 66 or older or a 2002-2005 'bird, otherwise you were mostly talking to yourself, I never got into the rest of the 'stang forums except Mustangsandmore back before Alex upgraded from that archaic old forum software to something more modern. (I had accounts on just about all of them, but AFM, MII.net, and SN were the only ones I stuck around for more than a few days/weeks for whatever reason.)

So now Facebook apparently has these groups where you get instant answers, there's little-to-no actual community, but the instant answers and Facebook likes abound and seem to be all anyone cares about, and the forums are almost all corporate owned at this point, and run badly, and that's why the forums are dying.
 
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Well, you see, a lot of the forums out there REALLY suck at this point.

I'm on F150forum.com and I don't even like it, because EVERYONE who asks a fuel-economy question gets flamed with "Should've bought a Prius!", 99% of the 09+ owners there are "V8 or Ecoboost or else!/3.7 and 3.5n/a trucks can't tow!" chodes, and a large portion of the 09-14 owners are into the whole lifted to near useless, with fugly wheels and fender flares bro-dozer vibe. You can't get ANY decent tech advice on most subjects, because every single headlight thread derails to "get OEM HIDs or else, all others suck" (well, news flash, so do the factory non-HID lights, and not everyone has $1000+ to sink into used factory HIDs), every engine thread devolves into an Ecoboost vs. Coyote argument (in the meantime, the n/a 3.5 and 3.7L guys like myself laugh about how the only two tech threads on our trucks are about how many miles we've gotten out of them with zero issues and fuel economy comparisons), and the transmission threads are all full of misinformation on how to use the transmission properly for towing/hauling (including a truly ****tarded group that refuses to use "tow/haul" mode because of the decrease in fuel economy even while towing heavy loads) and/or fluid change intervals.

I'm also on MustangII.net, which is, at this point, an online ghost town. It used to be the most active Mustang II forum on the web by leaps and bounds with dozens of posts on any given day. Repeat site outages, including one that lasted a year and resulted in a mass migration to a Facebook group have dropped it to about a post every other week, which really sucks, because honestly, even if I didn't own a II anymore, I'd still love to see what those guys are doing because they're the most imaginative car-guys I know.

I was one of the founding members and original moderators on Allfordmustangs.com back when Scott Halliday and Dale Brown still ran it. It was freaking amazing, the most community-oriented forum site I'd ever been a part of. In spite of several disagreements I had with Scott over the years, we always managed to work through it and I was on staff there for a decade off and on (I was the only moderator there to ever be perma-banned, then un-banned, and made a moderator again). Unfortunately Scott's health deteriorated badly a few years back and he sold the site to one of the big conglomerates that bought a lot of the forums around that time (that was actually his biggest nightmare when AFM was new. He feared having to sell out down the road, and told the staffers that made it to WFC6 in 2003 that he never wanted to do that.) because he could no longer run it day-to-day. In all irony, back when AFM was new, AFM staff saw Stangnet as our biggest competition, and were always trying to be better than SN in every way, this site was our yardstick for our success. Now the AFM way is dead and Stangnet prevails, and is the only forum I participate in that I actually enjoy. In the end, I was perma-banned by one of the jackwagons the corporation brought on as a moderator for being one of the leaders of the 4.6 forum "sammich crew".

MSD's tech forum is a joke, ESPECIALLY the MSD technicians that participate there (though it looks like that started when Holley bought out MSD). It makes me really wish I'd spent a few hundred more for a FAST or Holley EFI system, but hell, too late now.

Blueovalfun.net and Stangcountry.com both died horrible deaths (I was a founding member/staffer of both, even designed the forum logo for Stangcountry), the T-bird forum I used to be on was only interested in you if you owned a 66 or older or a 2002-2005 'bird, otherwise you were mostly talking to yourself, I never got into the rest of the 'stang forums except Mustangsandmore back before Alex upgraded from that archaic old forum software to something more modern. (I had accounts on just about all of them, but AFM, MII.net, and SN were the only ones I stuck around for more than a few days/weeks for whatever reason.)

So now Facebook apparently has these groups where you get instant answers, there's little-to-no actual community, but the instant answers and Facebook likes abound and seem to be all anyone cares about, and the forums are almost all corporate owned at this point, and run badly, and that's why the forums are dying.
There you go brother, let it all out......:zombie:
 
You know, it wasn't going to be all that... but once I got going...

Mah bad. :rlaugh:
I kind of see it as a cyclical thing.

As i get older, i can finally see the cycles that generations go through (my grandma warned me when i was a boy!).

It'll come back around. People can be idiots for a long time, sure. Even idiots seek help when they're at their wits end.
 
This is the only forum that I've ever participated in, ever.
Ya'll ain't kicked me off yet.
I have this stress thing, I am not going to point out if someone is be'n stupid but I will poke fun at ya but thats all it is. I want to hang with real people that are not going to insult you behind a fake name and or avatar.
 
corral is also dying , You used to be able to hit F5 every minute or so and a new page of comments would apear. The classifieds remain active but the Lounge is dead.


Noticed that too. I think part of it is when the discontinued use of Tapatalk to only use the app put out by the group that owns the site. Most of my browsing is via Tapatalk.


But yeah. I can check in 2 days later and see the same post on the first page still.

Where is everyone going?


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I love the Foxbody cars and still get caught thinking of them as a "modern" car. Until one of the younger techs ask me why I have a timing light, or ask what a timing light is. Worse yet is when you have to explain what a dwell meter is and what it does. Most techs nowadays do not even have standard whrenches and sockets, everything they own is metric. They wonder why my toolbox is so big, and I have to show them all of the whrenches in standard and metric, all of the sockets in standard in 1/4, 3/8 and1/2" drive, deep and shallow, whobbly, 6 and 12 point, then repeat in metric.....ummmm, yeah, I have $100k in tools because when I started working on cars, everything was standard and foreign cars where few and far between. There was no internet or cell phones, a sataellite dish was 12 feet in diameter. When I learned to work on cars you actually rebuilt alternators and starters maybe even a water pump, let alone rebuilding carbs. Now it is remove and replace. At theFord dealership you actually performed a valve grind. Nowadays, "techs" are more or less R&I guys, they dont really "fix" anything. And I am only 56 years old, and it seems like yesterday that "new" Foxbody just hit the streets and destroying the Camaros. Now that is almost "the good old days".
 
Well, you see, a lot of the forums out there REALLY suck at this point.

I'm on F150forum.com and I don't even like it, because EVERYONE who asks a fuel-economy question gets flamed with "Should've bought a Prius!", 99% of the 09+ owners there are "V8 or Ecoboost or else!/3.7 and 3.5n/a trucks can't tow!" chodes, and a large portion of the 09-14 owners are into the whole lifted to near useless, with fugly wheels and fender flares bro-dozer vibe. You can't get ANY decent tech advice on most subjects, because every single headlight thread derails to "get OEM HIDs or else, all others suck" (well, news flash, so do the factory non-HID lights, and not everyone has $1000+ to sink into used factory HIDs), every engine thread devolves into an Ecoboost vs. Coyote argument (in the meantime, the n/a 3.5 and 3.7L guys like myself laugh about how the only two tech threads on our trucks are about how many miles we've gotten out of them with zero issues and fuel economy comparisons), and the transmission threads are all full of misinformation on how to use the transmission properly for towing/hauling (including a truly ****tarded group that refuses to use "tow/haul" mode because of the decrease in fuel economy even while towing heavy loads) and/or fluid change intervals. I pretty much stick around because of the truly epic threads such as:
http://www.f150forum.com/f38/can-sync-default-bluetooth-audio-228929/
and http://www.f150forum.com/f38/best-modifications-under-50-a-166689/

I'm also on MustangII.net, which is, at this point, an online ghost town. It used to be the most active Mustang II forum on the web by leaps and bounds with dozens of posts on any given day. Repeat site outages, including one that lasted a year and resulted in a mass migration to a Facebook group have dropped it to about a post every other week, which really sucks, because honestly, even if I didn't own a II anymore, I'd still love to see what those guys are doing because they're the most imaginative car-guys I know.

I was one of the founding members and original moderators on Allfordmustangs.com back when Scott Halliday and Dale Brown still ran it. It was freaking amazing, the most community-oriented forum site I'd ever been a part of. In spite of several disagreements I had with Scott over the years, we always managed to work through it and I was on staff there for a decade off and on (I was the only moderator there to ever be perma-banned, then un-banned, and made a moderator again). Unfortunately Scott's health deteriorated badly a few years back and he sold the site to one of the big conglomerates that bought a lot of the forums around that time (that was actually his biggest nightmare when AFM was new. He feared having to sell out down the road, and told the staffers that made it to WFC6 in 2003 that he never wanted to do that.) because he could no longer run it day-to-day. In all irony, back when AFM was new, AFM staff saw Stangnet as our biggest competition, and were always trying to be better than SN in every way, this site was our yardstick for our success. Now the AFM way is dead and Stangnet prevails, and is the only forum I participate in that I actually enjoy. In the end, I was perma-banned by one of the jackwagons the corporation brought on as a moderator for being one of the leaders of the 4.6 forum "sammich crew".

MSD's tech forum is a joke, ESPECIALLY the MSD technicians that participate there (though it looks like that started when Holley bought out MSD). It makes me really wish I'd spent a few hundred more for a FAST or Holley EFI system, but hell, too late now.

Blueovalfun.net and Stangcountry.com both died horrible deaths (I was a founding member/staffer of both, even designed the forum logo for Stangcountry), the T-bird forum I used to be on was only interested in you if you owned a 66 or older or a 2002-2005 'bird, otherwise you were mostly talking to yourself, I never got into the rest of the 'stang forums except Mustangsandmore back before Alex upgraded from that archaic old forum software to something more modern. (I had accounts on just about all of them, but AFM, MII.net, and SN were the only ones I stuck around for more than a few days/weeks for whatever reason.)

So now Facebook apparently has these groups where you get instant answers, there's little-to-no actual community, but the instant answers and Facebook likes abound and seem to be all anyone cares about, and the forums are almost all corporate owned at this point, and run badly, and that's why the forums are dying.

CT :lol: All of it
 
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