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WantaGT

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might sound like i'm pirating the thread but it has to do with higher output alternators. can you use them to up the charge when using underdrive pulleys? I have pulleys and the stock alternator isn't up to snuff for some of the stereo stuff i have PLUS headlights. sorry if i offend anyone by bringing up a tangent...
 
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I think I'm going to go with a rebuilt 3G from a local company... the 130 amp version is about $120-130. Seems like this place's stuff is of better quality than the usual parts store remans.

The parts store alternators are kind of a crap shoot.. sometimes they'll last several years, sometimes several months. I used to work at a parts store, and we did see them come back in from time to time, although not *that* often. A lot of places have a lifetime warranty, so for the price it's not a bad way to go... it would just suck to have the thing die unexpectedly and strand you.
 

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With the wiring upgrade, you are preaching to the choir. New power cable and power ground is going in. I have had the power ground cable for a bit - I just had not installed it (it even helps a stock system).

Insane, only reman'd Bosch units avl ($177). None New and even this one has to be ordered.

Kevin, do you know if the Duralast you used was a Gold unit (vs standard) and was it new or reman'd? I can only get a reman'd Non-Gold Durlast reman'd unit (150 bucks).

One last question: do the parts store units come with a new pulley? Not that a 2G pulley probably bolts up (since it has the cooling dealie), but mine is in pieces.

I keep swaying, but the parts store route was how I was leaning while thinking and working on the 94 earlier. Your latest posts kind of beat that home. Being able to swap it quickly is nice (though I may have to swap it often). Last reman'd alt I did (on the truck) - I went through a couple and had a couple bench test bad when swapping the old bad ones in.

Again, thanks for all the ideas. I appreciate all the posts, as it gives me an idea of how many folks run which units and how they did for each of you.
 

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Parts store ones come with the pulley
 

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WantaGT said:
might sound like i'm pirating the thread but it has to do with higher output alternators. can you use them to up the charge when using underdrive pulleys? I have pulleys and the stock alternator isn't up to snuff for some of the stereo stuff i have PLUS headlights. sorry if i offend anyone by bringing up a tangent...
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Don't feel like you are 'pirating' at all. I never have issues with people asking stuff on threads, as long as it is sort of related to the topic at hand (I try to do the same when jacking a thread - it keeps threads going and might stimulate other related ideas).

With U/D's, a higher-output alternator still might not have a decent amperage output at idle (because of the U/D's and/or a really lowish idle setting, depending upon how the alt is regulated). Some folks choose to go with an overdrive alt pulley (ASP, et al) to get around this. I would caution that some alt warranties are affected by running an overdrive pulley.

Trent, thanks for the info (I kept seeing in small type under the alt descriptions that a pulley change was required. I thought that meant I had to reuse my old pulley, a la how most reman'd power steering pumps come).

With all these good ideas, I still have not decided which route to go. Go figure.
 

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I think some of the 3g sites advise a pulley change if you have a lot of accessories. IIRC they said that the stock pulley would still be under driven with a lot of load being pulled like stereos, lights, fans, etc.

I left the stock pulley on mine and have under drive crank and water pump pulleys. It looks like I might have to go to the next size smaller belt though soon.
 

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Thanks everyone!

I just ordered a 160 amp (70 at idle) unit from Alterstart. 135 bucks. Ill let ya know how it works.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
Kevin, do you know if the Duralast you used was a Gold unit (vs standard) and was it new or reman'd? I can only get a reman'd Non-Gold Durlast reman'd unit (150 bucks).
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Jt, it was a new Gold unit. The reman'd ones only came with a 1 year and the new ones came with a lifetime warranty.
 

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Jt, it was a new Gold unit. The reman'd ones only came with a 1 year and the new ones came with a lifetime warranty.
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Thanks Kevin. It appears as though they now have the Reman'd unit for 150 (around here; prices are regional) with a LLT. The Gold is the one I was lookin at (I like new), but it is 180 bucks and special order.

If I could have gotten the unit you have for what you paid, I would have.

(I just posted that info for future searchers). Thanks again for the info.
 

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go the bone yard....10 bucks. hade mine 2 years.
 

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HISSIN50 said:
Thanks Kevin. It appears as though they now have the Reman'd unit for 150 (around here; prices are regional) with a LLT. The Gold is the one I was lookin at (I like new), but it is 180 bucks and special order.

If I could have gotten the unit you have for what you paid, I would have.
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Wow. You are right. I just checked my local store and now it's $180. Almost doubled in the last 5 years.
 

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Parts tend to do that. Once I saw that you had gotten it so long ago, I had a feeling.

I have LLT brake pads for a car I have had for about 15 years (since I was 13) and the pads are now almost 10 times the price I paid. They cringe whenever I go to get some new ones.
 

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I just upgraded to the 3g 130 amp and i think i spent like 60-70 bucks for the alt. and parts. Got my alt. from a junky and works fine, just doesnt look all brand new looking
 

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I will get a J/Y 3G as a spare (two cars will have 3G's now), but I wanted a fresh one for the main alt. Heat really kills off the local alternators and batteries here (if a battery lasts 3 years, one has done well). Bike batteries are worse. Love the desert.
 
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i have a re-man duralast 80amp from autozone. it was $80 - $40 core charge = $40.
 

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Scorcher, If there were a deal like that, I would have JUMPED all over it. Then I would have gotten some for you guys too because we dont have deals like that here.
 
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