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302Rich

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I am converting my 68 coupe to a stick with parts from a 67. The potted metal support bushings look good. However, I keep reading about roller bearings/bushing. I plan on running a 302 with a small four barrell so I don't think that I'll need a heavy duty clutch. Will I be OK if replace all the bushings and keep the linkage well lubed? The roller bushing idea seems good but I'm kinda short on time and money.
 

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The plastic bushings have been around for decades without problems, they do wear out after a while. They just keep the pedals tight. Technically you could run without them but it would be awkward. You'll be fine with the plastic bushings. If you want to do the roller bearing conversion later it doesn't take a long time to yank the pedal hanger out.
 

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Every Ford I've taken apart with more than 150,00 miles, pot bushings shot! If you run without the plastic bushings the pot metal will self-destruct and the shaft will get scored!
Just My $.02,
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Once or twice a decade I shoot some white lithium grease into the pedal bushings. This has been sufficient to put several hundred thousand miles on a 289HP clutch. I have used the roller conversion in other cars, though, and I like the results.
 

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I think mine is shot too, because my clutch pedal sometimes squeaks. My break pedal does not though. Has anyone installed the roller bearing one?

Is this the kit you guys are referring to? Is there a better kit?

http://sitesearch.cjponyparts.com/search?keywords=clutch+pedal+roller+bearing
 

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I like the one from Mustang Steve:

MustangSteve's Tie Rod Adapters and Lower Ball Joint Adapters for Installation of Granada or Versailles Disc Brakes on 65-73 Mustangs

His kit doesn't use the possibly worn shaft as the inner bearing race and is vey easy and effective.
HTH,
Gene
 
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I went with the mustangsteve bearings on my 66....that with my clutch cable, the clutch is so light I can depress it with literally 2 fingers, and it's silent





 
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tx65coupe said:
I think mine is shot too, because my clutch pedal sometimes squeaks. My break pedal does not though. Has anyone installed the roller bearing one?

Is this the kit you guys are referring to? Is there a better kit?

Results for clutch pedal roller bearing - CJ Pony Parts - Ford Mustang Parts
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That's the Drake kit. Not well engineered in one respect, the groove is too close to the bracket face, which means the wavy washers cannot be used, and the thick spacer washers must be ground down a bit. Once this is done, though, installation is easy, and the results outstanding, with no welding or machining of the holes required.
 
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2+2GT said:
That's the Drake kit. Not well engineered in one respect, the groove is too close to the bracket face, which means the wavy washers cannot be used, and the thick spacer washers must be ground down a bit. Once this is done, though, installation is easy, and the results outstanding, with no welding or machining of the holes required.
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^^^^times eleventy billion
 
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Im doing this job right now. My support bushings are fine after 40+ years. The bushings on the rod however dissapeared. This caused my squeaking. It elongated the hole in the clutch pedal and wore on the connecting rod. I used a little JB Weld, ground and redrilled it. It works great now. I ordered new plastic bushings and its tight like new. It cost less than $5 and was very easy.
 

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Pony66 said:
Im doing this job right now. My support bushings are fine after 40+ years. The bushings on the rod however dissapeared. This caused my squeaking. It elongated the hole in the clutch pedal and wore on the connecting rod. I used a little JB Weld, ground and redrilled it. It works great now. I ordered new plastic bushings and its tight like new. It cost less than $5 and was very easy.
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Thats cool. I was originially thinking I might need to do something like this. Then I saw the bearing kits and thought that might be better. I haven't really looked to see what is worn on mine. I looked once and didn't see anything that looked wrong.
 

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I like that Mustang Steve setup. I don't like the idea of having to send away my pedals though. I would rather not do that. I guess thats the only way to get his kit though. Is that right?
 

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2+2GT said:
That's the Drake kit. Not well engineered in one respect, the groove is too close to the bracket face, which means the wavy washers cannot be used, and the thick spacer washers must be ground down a bit. Once this is done, though, installation is easy, and the results outstanding, with no welding or machining of the holes required.
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Do you think that this kit is as good as Mustang Steve's?
 

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If you can weld, you can get the Mustang Steve kit and do it yourself. Here is a write up from when I did it:

Ball Bearing Clutch Pedal Support - FordMuscle.com Forums
 
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tx65coupe said:
Do you think that this kit is as good as Mustang Steve's?
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Well, I'd say the difference is between pretty good, and massively way better than you need. One thing is near certain, the Steve version will be the most durable part on the car. I put the Drake version on a 69 428 CJ last summer, and a 12-year-old-girl could have pushed the clutch in when I was done. You choose. The Drake version is less expensive, and if the steel part of the pedal bracket is not damaged, could be installed with the bracket in the car.
 
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