Please Help,5.0 Ho Swap Into F150

[90sickfox]

In this chart you can see what a stock mustang 5.0 made on the Dyno....look at 2400rpm mark...

There's no mention of how much wear and tear are on this engine. According to this...a mustang motor would be a dog in a truck. This debate is really hard.

If all the supporting stuff is from a truck....ie. intake, accessories, blah blah...how much would that affect the torque out come ?

I hold no hard feelings towards any one here....I just like a good fight every once and a while....hence...my real welcome to the forum statement.

 

[General karthief]

Thats 'debate' not 'fight'.
If this were a fight I'd have my butt wooped, I'm to old to run now.

 

[RaggedGT]

In this chart you can see what a stock mustang 5.0 made on the Dyno....look at 2400rpm mark...

There's no mention of how much wear and tear are on this engine. According to this...a mustang motor would be a dog in a truck. This debate is really hard.

If all the supporting stuff is from a truck....ie. intake, accessories, blah blah...how much would that affect the torque out come ?

I hold no hard feelings towards any one here....I just like a good fight every once and a while....hence...my real welcome to the forum statement.

So your saying,if I’m reading that right- Turbo?

 

[General karthief]

So your saying,if I’m reading that right- Turbo?

And jackstands with built in led lights

 

[grumpy150]

So its 271 over 245 anybody gonna admit i was write?????????? Or you gonna stand on yoir orignal comment about low end. Lmfao

 

[grumpy150]

Lol good fights while two people jump on me at the same time. We call that unfair were i come from. And thats not a good fight.and you both no im right. But yet cant admit it. Good day jerks

 

[grumpy150]

So your saying,if I’m reading that right- Turbo?

Ya look atvit ho made more at 2400

 

[General karthief]

First of all you were not write, you may have been correct but the way it was worded was confusing as to what engine you were referring to. It's a moot point anyway, and you posted while I was writing this, if it's that important that you are right over such a small detail the lets get into the small details, intakes, cams, weight and gear ratios.

 

[grumpy150]

First of all you were not write, you may have been correct but the way it was worded was confusing as to what engine you were referring to. It's a moot point anyway, and you posted while I was writing this, if it's that important that you are right over such a small detail the lets get into the small details, intakes, cams, weight and gear ratios.

 

[grumpy150]

I thought we wete talking sbout wether a ho motor is a good truck swap? And someone said no low end then when i called bs. Uou posted the numbers after a little name cslling. And it says right there and you said it to. That a ho makes 271 and a truck motor makes 245 at 2400 rpms. But you just cant say correct instead you want to throw a bunch of extra bs in the mix to make it complicated. The truck intake should only increase the ho torge output at 2400 so ehy go there? O ya yhats because i am correct. And yes im a little pasionate about this if you jave ever but a torque cam in and had your motor run like its a deisel im not pulling houses with a 150. Thats the only place thats needed

 

[grumpy150]

Now im so frustraded i cant even type. Whatever stick to pulling houses with your 150. Ill do my own thing and by the way. You called me out on owning a mustang. Want to loose some cash. I do have a pony.and altough im having a hard time typing on this device. I might know just a little more than you think after all im just a new jerk

 

[90sickfox]

That's the problem with this new age...no one can take one on the chin.

Most of us are jerks.....I know I can be...

Here is the article I pulled that graph from.

http://www.mustangandfords.com/project-vehicles/m5lp-0701-1993-ford-mustang-bolt-on-buildup/

You may call B.S. I call it an opportunity to dig deeper to find a solid answer.

In the swaps that I've done the mustang engine felt down on power when installed in a truck...with all the truck parts.

Something else to check Jesse Hayes...

Does your truck have a knock sensor ? Does the mustang engine have a place for the sensor to screw in ? Its located behind the intake screwed into a threaded hole going straight down in the block.

Some mustang blocks have the hole drilled and tapped....some don't have a hole at all.

We don't mean to bash you...I was just poking fun. We are sarcastic ole bastards... If you think we're bad....jeeeesh... Watch out for madmike1157 ...he destroys people with his vocabulary prowess.

He's pretty knowledgeable...might shed some enlightenment. Mikes like our cool grumpy Grand Pa...he stays in his chair unless we make too much noise.

Not sayin' he's old 'cause he's not that old...um....his knees are brand new.

 

[General karthief]

You sound like your looking for an argument and not advice, I told you to put the 5.0 in the truck, it will serve you well, as for the other bs, the truck intake will change where your torque numbers fall, where I can't say but it will move it compared to the mustang intake, nobody called you names, nobody called you out on owning a mustang,
I don't have a f150, I have a f superduty, thats like a f450, and yes the 7.3 turbo will pull a house down the road.
As for racing? Someone is always faster.
I like a good debate, I often learn things from them, argue'n just gets attitude. Take a breath.

 

[grumpy150]

Now thats what i was looking for. Except i didnt ask the question i just joined in. And i am about to try it. And 1157 is a lucky number and if mad mikes from michigan i got a clue who he is. But thanks i was trying to help that giy now you finakky heloed me the knock sesor was on the last one we did but i didnt realize some dont have it. Is there a answer for that?

 

[General karthief]

Don't take this the wrong way but you need to proof read before you post, not a criticism, just makes it easier to under stand you. As for what you are asking it depended on the casting year and platform it was intended for, I don't know this for sure, just from experience with past engine parts.

 

[90sickfox]

Hey...simmer down man...

How much money and where ? Our blood pressure is going up. Jeeeesh.

Let's get to what we know....we know your not a kid, stupid, or a chump. So far we like you. Not that you seem like the type to care...being all grumpy and ( I didn't call you that, you did ).... I called you a jerk.

The engine can and will work. I guess you want to just drive the truck. Any engine is better than a blown one.

Karthief is a pretty good guy....so am I....so are most guys here.

We just want to help...and have some fun while doing it. If you can't handle it...we understand.

You don't have to have a mustang to be in here.... We aren't like that. We aren't calling you out. Believe me there are a lot of fast cars here. As soon as I can keep my car from drawing "S" s straight into curbs I may take you up on that run.

I know a few guys would love to take your money...or give theirs to you for a good run.

You're frustrated ... Calm down, it isn't that serious. If you're a jerk. . embrace it...its not that bad.

 

[90sickfox]

There's an answer... The hole has to be drilled and tapped in the same spot as the truck block. I'm not sure what size thread it is...but I know its tapered pipe thread. The torque on it is pretty specific. I'd have to research to find a torque spec.

The knock sensor was a huge issue with trucks running bad...or not as good as they should. A couple years ago you couldn't buy a replacement. They do make them now though.

 

[grumpy150]

Yes i do forget to proff and your not such a jerk after all lol.my phone must have a virus or something it will change when i hit post then i look and cant believe what it did. And ive bought two new phones inthink it must be in my contacts thatas all i brought with me that end email accounts one of them has my number.But i have a 90 ho out of a mustang gt. And my truck is a 96 i learned to say 95 i get the right parts more often that way. It has a stage three kit in the trany they say. It shifts solid for sure. And 411 gears and 35 inch goodyear dura tracks on it.

 

[90sickfox]

Hey man...my names Scott.

Smart phones are stupid.

That 90 engine should work in the 96. No injector wire swapping or any of that. It also should have the same firing order. The only hickup is if its got that hole drilled and tapped for the knock sensor. Later in production....after 89 or 90...I believe all the blocks were the same and had the hole tapped.

You're not such a jerk either...just a little grumpy.

Hope you stick around in this place.

Trucks went roller and HO firing order in 95. Just found out the camshafts are different through a search at rockauto. The 1996 truck got the 351 camshaft....part number 1288...mustangs had a different camshaft but same firing order as the 351 and 95 to 96 302. That doesn't mean you can't use it. With the shift kit it may work out.

If need be...a camshaft swap isn't that hard in a truck. The easiest would be to put 1.7 roller rockers on it. It'll wake it up as bit. I used to use 1.7 rockers on the exhaust valves only. That's been Dyno tested and proven to make more power than 1.7s on intake and exhaust.

Oh I also came across this in a truck forum from others that have done this, too.

 

[grumpy150]

Thats cool and ya i come off grumpy on here but thats passion for the truth. this has been a conflict for what seems like the begining of time but its really just as long as i been around. I heard this argument as a kid sitting with the old guys being quite listening and taking it all in. And i always thought bs torgue comes with power. You build power the torque comes with it. Its a gas motor or i might think its true. But as long as there putting roller cams that can take 7000 grand and make power to 6500 i want that too. Like i said im not pulling houses with a 150. I actually dont use much of power or torque in that truck it spends a lot of its life at idle going down trails. (IM GONNA HEAR THATS TORQUE I KNOW THAT FOR SURE)And when i do nail its usally mud or snow and i want every little tiny part of horsepower i can get at that point its red line time. And i bet most guys with a150 are pretty much the same. Also when you line up at the stop light with a ls 6.0 or worse a 5.3 you better not be running a torgue cam or you will embarse the blue oval. Thanks for A bunch of advice i will stick around and i might even be grumpy again. ill sign up for thst name right now. Lol grumpy150 sounds good ha ha.that brings back memorys of a car called grumpys toy. And the grumpy old guy that ran it. I like that.