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66bluepony

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What is the best way to handle the pot metal parts, (1966 tail light bezals), have rechromed, buy new. I have been told that rechromed may only last a few weeks or could last a long time no matter who does them. Then there is the quality issue of repops. So help please.
 

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By the repos and use plenty of wax.

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Repos are extremely cheap.

To re-chrome you need to have the old chrome stripped off, cleaned, polished etc etc. The labour alone, never mind the quality of 40 year old Mazak, means it makes no sense.
 
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My repop mirrors have been pretty abysmal in terms of pot metal pitting
 

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If they are recromed by a good shop they should last a long time. If they don't do a good job with pitting they will probably look like crap. From what I've read some companies use lead in the pot metal to help with the casting process (think lubricant between the pot metal and die). The lead is what will pit. To fix the pits they need to be sand blasted and filled with either solder or special metal fillers like "metal lab".

Another option would be to have them powdercoated. Eastwood has a couple chrome formulas. I am restoring a 73 cuda for my mom and I am going to try this route first. I will try to remember to post the results.
 
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ericl said:
If they are recromed by a good shop they should last a long time. If they don't do a good job with pitting they will probably look like crap. From what I've read some companies use lead in the pot metal to help with the casting process (think lubricant between the pot metal and die). The lead is what will pit. To fix the pits they need to be sand blasted and filled with either solder or special metal fillers like "metal lab".

Another option would be to have them powdercoated. Eastwood has a couple chrome formulas. I am restoring a 73 cuda for my mom and I am going to try this route first. I will try to remember to post the results.
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Generally, lead and zinc (pot metal) don't mix. What I've learned from bullet casting, is you can add a small amount of zinc to a lead alloy and get a mix. But anything over about 1% ( if I recall correctly) and you have a mess on your hands. The lead alloy will only absorb that small amount, the rest coagulates in the melting pot and screws up further casting efforts. So, in casting zinc parts, I doubt lead helps at all. Tin helps in casting lead alloys, it lowers the surface tension and you get a finer detail in the small parts, might work the same in zinc casting.
 
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I can tell you the mixing properties of lead and zinc ion a sec, let me look up the phase diagram right quick though


hmm whaddaya know, seems to be one of the only major phase diagrams I DONT have in my materials book, and one of the few I cannot readily acces via internet, even though tehre are tons of referances, but they are all in publications Icant access without passwords. :/
 

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Generally, lead and zinc (pot metal) don't mix. What I've learned from bullet casting, is you can add a small amount of zinc to a lead alloy and get a mix. But anything over about 1% ( if I recall correctly) and you have a mess on your hands. The lead alloy will only absorb that small amount, the rest coagulates in the melting pot and screws up further casting efforts. So, in casting zinc parts, I doubt lead helps at all. Tin helps in casting lead alloys, it lowers the surface tension and you get a finer detail in the small parts, might work the same in zinc casting.
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You might be right. That was 2nd hand info I found on a metal finishing forum while researching how to deal with pits.
 
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Jarred Darque said:
I can tell you the mixing properties of lead and zinc ion a sec, let me look up the phase diagram right quick though


hmm whaddaya know, seems to be one of the only major phase diagrams I DONT have in my materials book, and one of the few I cannot readily acces via internet, even though tehre are tons of referances, but they are all in publications Icant access without passwords. :/
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I see you're in Ruston. My brother lives there too.
 
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is he in school there? (sory dont mean to high jack)
 

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I was trying to clean up my horns and once i stripped the paint off I discovered how badly pitted the pot-metal was. Reconditioning them is gonna be tough, I'd like to hear how that is done.

(only a partial hijack )
 
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Jarred Darque said:
is he in school there? (sory dont mean to high jack)
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No, he's a little older than that. He works for Hogan Hardwoods.
 
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muggyweld.com/potmetal
 
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you would be crazy to rechrome the tail light bezels on a '66 mustang. you can buy original chrome parts from states like arizona that look almost new and cost far less than rechromed parts. i've only rechromed stuff for 50's and earlier cars, and thats only because i couldn't find reproduction (or nice original) parts.
 
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