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Noobz347

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fasterthangas said:
If only I had your money.
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They make Hondas.

I mean, depending on how you look at it, it's still cheap fun.
 
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Ha! There's nothing cheap about this hobby!!! We're all insane.
 
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Noobz347

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fasterthangas said:
Ha! There's nothing cheap about this hobby!!! We're all insane.
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I think it is everybody else that is insane.


[We] are sane ones!!!


Let that sink in.
 
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Noobz347 said:
I think it is everybody else that is insane.


[We] are sane ones!!!


Let that sink in.
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Well, some of us anyway....
 

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Noobz347 said:
Do what I do:

Put the card in the slot and never look at what you spend on fuel regardless of the price.

If I were all that concerned about it, I would not be driving a Mustang, and a 3/4 Ton GMT800, and a Gen2 V.

Just wait until the poor folks in Cali weigh in. I don't even know what the last price was I paid. I'm capped at 91 octane here. I don't see 93 very often at all. We do have lots of "No Corn" pumps though in 89 and 91. Farmers and ranchers don't want the 'corn fuel'. Go figure.

In the city, I can find other, including race fuels.
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I'm with this fella, if your gas is costing you too much, drive something different. I wouldn't trade my V10 Excursion or my for anything. Sux to fill up the Excursion sometimes, but that's the price you pay, literally.
 

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Over $5 a gallon for 87 where I live... Honestly my fox really isn't too bad on gas though. Tall rear gear FTW.
 
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Right Now in Toronto Ontario the price for gas is thru the roof 91 octane is 2.00 a liter and 94 octane is 2.05 a liter thanks Mr. Trump.
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Whahhhhhhhhhhhhh, cry me a frikin river.
 
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keel said:
Over $5 a gallon for 87 where I live... Honestly my fox really isn't too bad on gas though. Tall rear gear FTW.
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Don't buy any then!
 

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Whahhhhhhhhhhhhh, cry me a frikin river.
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Not crying lol just saying...
 
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My DD v8 4runner gets worse gas mileage than my mustang. There's nothing i can do about it, not going to spend $50k on a new vehicle to get a little better gas mileage. Doesn't make financial sense. So for now, as others have said, put the card in the machine and pump. *now if the 4runner kicks the bucket then i'll look for something that gets somewhat better gas mileage.

I will go back to DD'ing my mustang once i get back in my house and get the car fixed.
 
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This is one reason my truck is parked and I bought myself a nice used commuter car. The Mustangs are toys and I figure it's just the price of admission.

The funny part is that no one bats an eye at complaining about the price of fuel. Broaden the conversation - how does your wage compare to 5, 10, 20, etc years ago, what were the prices of things back then, and how have things progressed since? It's been quite a long time now since I looked and did the math, but I recently found the scratch paper I used to record the percentages. It's not just a single person these days that anyone should be mad at. As I've said, I've not done the math or looked in a long time, but I suspect that the gaps have only grown since.....



I remember recording more than these numbers, but don't recall everything I did anymore. The big one, and one that no one should be surprised by, is CEO salaries rose by over 1000% in that same time period. The short story: we're slowly being bled dry on multiple fronts and it's unsustainable. Something has to give sooner or later....

Edit: Disclaimer - this is for the US. I can't speak for any other country.
 
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LILCBRA said:
This is one reason my truck is parked and I bought myself a nice used commuter car. The Mustangs are toys and I figure it's just the price of admission.

The funny part is that no one bats an eye at complaining about the price of fuel. Broaden the conversation - how does your wage compare to 5, 10, 20, etc years ago, what were the prices of things back then, and how have things progressed since? It's been quite a long time now since I looked and did the math, but I recently found the scratch paper I used to record the percentages. It's not just a single person these days that anyone should be mad at. As I've said, I've not done the math or looked in a long time, but I suspect that the gaps have only grown since.....



I remember recording more than these numbers, but don't recall everything I did anymore. The big one, and one that no one should be surprised by, is CEO salaries rose by over 1000% in that same time period. The short story: we're slowly being bled dry on multiple fronts and it's unsustainable. Something has to give sooner or later....

Edit: Disclaimer - this is for the US. I can't speak for any other country.
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Is that 2010 or 2018? Either way, a lot has happened since... even though it may seem as if gas is skyrocketing, prices have remained relatively stable for the last ~20 years compared to many other metrics like housing or the stock market.

I will say carbon taxes have absolutely wrecked gas prices in my state (WA) which is sitting at roughly $1 per gallon higher than the national average. California is even worse.
 

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keel said:
Is that 2010 or 2018? Either way, a lot has happened since... even though it may seem as if gas is skyrocketing, prices have remained relatively stable for the last ~20 years compared to many other metrics like housing or the stock market.

I will say carbon taxes have absolutely wrecked gas prices in my state (WA) which is sitting at roughly $1 per gallon higher than the national average. California is even worse.
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That's from 2010.
 
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gkomo said:
My DD v8 4runner gets worse gas mileage than my mustang. There's nothing i can do about it, not going to spend $50k on a new vehicle to get a little better gas mileage. Doesn't make financial sense. So for now, as others have said, put the card in the machine and pump. *now if the 4runner kicks the bucket then i'll look for something that gets somewhat better gas mileage.

I will go back to DD'ing my mustang once i get back in my house and get the car fixed.
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With today's interest rates, who can afford a new gas miser? I guess it's worth keeping these old cars running after all.
 
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fasterthangas said:
With today's interest rates, who can afford a new gas miser? I guess it's worth keeping these old cars running after all.
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My gas miser is waiting for some front cover gasket work...



It has just over 200k km. '98 V6 5spd.
 
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We have a Kia Forte with the CVT transmission that gets 44mpg. Crazy technology these days. My Ecoboost truck has gotten as much as 26mpg. My Mustang gets 10mpg sitting in the garage.
 
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Just filled up today in La Jolla at a shell. $5.75/gallon for 87 but the ol 4Runner needed a car wash so spend $17 to get $5.25/gallon (a promo they have I guess). So basically I got a car wash for $7 when you account for the 20 gallon tank. It’s all still expensive and I don’t look at pump prices… just go to the nearest station when it’s time to fill up.
 
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So if you want to do some work then go here and look at the last column:

Weekly U.S. Ending Stocks of Total Gasoline (Thousand Barrels)

Remember that number is in thousand barrel increments to 200,000 is 200 million barrels or 8.4 billion gallons (42 gallons to a barrel). Average daily use in the US is 8.94 million barrels of gasoline a day (https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=23&t=10). So we have enough in storage for roughly 22 days if all production came to a complete halt. The refineries have down time for maintenance called turn arounds and they are constantly debottle necking and adding trains but when refineries close due unfriendly state laws or demands the industry is barely keeping up. Very difficult to build a new refinery due to the stigma with it and unfriendly federal laws.

Keep the above in mind when you see the price at the pump move around with the oil price per barrel as the refineries are constantly buying off the open market as are their customers who ship oil to them to be refined and then either sold to buyers or the customer keeps it and that product is shipped all over the US to tank farms where trucks come and load it out at truck racks (this is where the additives are mixed into the gasoline) and then delivered to the gas stations. All of this is 22 days or so in the rears.

This is all very high level and there is a lot more to it but I think this give an overall idea as to what drives these things and global impacts are part of it as well.
 
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