Procharger vs turbo charger / drivetrain issues

AJ Gosink · Feb 16, 2013

ok down and dirty i have a 03 gt with 88,xxx on it after awhile of driving as i release the clutch it feels as if its sticking about 1-1.25 inches from fully released and it feels as if the gas pedal is the same ? i was thinking throw out bearing ? suggestions?

also I've seemed to have fallen into a few extra dollars, and its between a twin turbo set up or a pro charger, i understand the twin turbos are more expensive but looking for more power and looking for suggestions ?

FoxRod87 · Feb 16, 2013

Could possibly be the throw out bearing but not sure. Turbos are the way to go. They don't rob power to make power like a belt driven procharger, they just make power from the exhaust flow and make a lot more torque and power with less boost. Just make sure u make some upgrades to the chassis for the extra power!

AJ Gosink · Feb 16, 2013

thanks, i had a custom exhaust fabbed, but it hangs too low, and what are some of the internals i need to fix up ? and if i get a slp loudmouth will it hang lower as well ?

usaf_branham · Feb 16, 2013

rufkm?

if you cant figure out minor drivetrain issues that are probably related to your throwout bearing, you have no buisness attempting to put a turbo set up on your ride... you will FAIL.

get a reliable kit from either vortech, procharger, or kennebell; otherwise your doomed.

AJ Gosink · Feb 16, 2013

hey im using this site as a refrence, if you aint got good to say then dont answer back to the thread ? its not hard, but by the way your talking your gods gift to mustangs so please enlighten me to the secret.

FoxRod87 · Feb 16, 2013

It's according to how much boost u want to push and how aggressive ur tune will be as to what ur engine will handle. But to be safe u could get a good block with forged internals and u should be fine. Maybe a terminator block and internals.

usaf_branham · Feb 16, 2013

ugh.

disregard your custom exhaust. if it is already pointing your exhaust gas from your heads out through the pipes at the bottom of the car ie "long tube headers" never mind a twin turbo setup, or go with rear mount turbo's like STS or something like that. I am not a TURBO guy, even though I wish I were. Talk to tank.

Anyway, on a stock bottom end, dont push it past 425 to 450 rwhp... otherwise your doomed. Not many 2v's live past those numbers, hell im on borrowed time myself.

If I had a custom exhuast already installed, I would go with either a procharger or roots style blower depending on your goals. If I had a built bottom end I would go nutz with a procharger or big dog kenne bell with trick flow heads the right fuel system and let it eat... but your original post was a lil vague and I have been drinking so bear with me here.

FoxRod87 · Feb 16, 2013

usaf_branham said:
ugh.

disregard your custom exhaust. if it is already pointing your exhaust gas from your heads out through the pipes at the bottom of the car ie "long tube headers" never mind a twin turbo setup, or go with rear mount turbo's like STS or something like that. I am not a TURBO guy, even though I wish I were. Talk to tank.

Anyway, on a stock bottom end, dont push it past 425 to 450 rwhp... otherwise your doomed. Not many 2v's live past those numbers, hell im on borrowed time myself.

If I had a custom exhuast already installed, I would go with either a procharger or roots style blower depending on your goals. If I had a built bottom end I would go nutz with a procharger or big dog kenne bell with trick flow heads the right fuel system and let it eat... but your original post was a lil vague and I have been drinking so bear with me here.

I agree for it will be cheaper to do this but it is only according to ur goals what u want to do with the car. But power for power I'd go with a turbo. U just need to figure out what u want.

usaf_branham · Feb 16, 2013

If you have stock internals, I would go with a low boost supercharger kit. I would advise against a turbo only because of the complexity of the situation. If one of the pipes cracks (which is very likely) do you have the equipment to fix it? I do not, nor do I have the skills. I have friends who can, but I do not want to bother them with every little instance where a joint cracked... that is why I bought my 2.1 kenne bell kit, although I will tell you that I regret that... I should have bought the 2.6 tuner kit or the 2.8 kit through MPH or Mr Norms garage, because I am going to upgrade to a built short block and heads. It will better suit you if you are just the normal shadetree mechanic.

2002BLGT · Feb 24, 2013

Vortech or Kenne Bell

trinity_gt · Feb 24, 2013

I love turbos. I've got a VW 1.8T that's my daily and I love the power delivery from that itty bitty turbo. I'd love to put a turbo on the MGT. But...

Aftermarket (or homebrew) turbo kits most often require swapping out the K-member for a tubular piece and routing the exhaust to the front, through one or two turbines and then down to the back of the car. All of this plumbing can really pump up underhood heat. It can be susceptible to cracks. The alien exhaust routing basically eliminates the ability to use factory catalysts so if you live in a place that does emissions testing you can get hosed when it comes to register the car.

Ninety percent of what I like about my KB is its immediate, lagless torque delivery. But here in Ontario we have pretty strict emissions testing so, as an added bonus, my blower allows me to retain all emissions equipment right down to the factory H-pipe and its cats and never have to worry about passing emissions (or finding a way to do that.)

Having said all that if I had the chance to do a turbo and it could be done in a trouble-free, "legal" way that wouldn't cause veins in my neck to burst every couple of years come emissions testing time I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Deleted member 38176 · Feb 24, 2013

Turbos will always out-perform belt-driven superchargers, there is just no denying the physics of the two. Howerever, turbo's are EXPENSIVE to both install AND to maintain. Superchargers get you there for far cheaper.

72 fastback · Feb 25, 2013

I have a Kenne Bell intercooled kit on my 02 gt conv and I love it. I bought the 2.1 with is probally all you will ever need with a stock long block. The kit came with everything minus spark plugs. And trinity is right power is instant. It doesn't matter what rpm you're at. But you will need you uprade suspension chasis and tires though. I been doing this to mine the last few weeks.

Mattstang04 · Feb 25, 2013

What are the OP's intentions, power or ET wise?

robert_83 · Feb 25, 2013

AJ Gosink said:
hey im using this site as a refrence, if you aint got good **** to say then dont answer back to the thread ? its not hard, but by the way your talking your gods gift to mustangs so please enlighten me to the secret.

Matt, I have a 04 GT with a procharger, and I love it. A few things I noticed similar to your clutch pedal problem is that the stock cable linkage and stock fulcrum were just not cutting it with my new RAM clutch. I bought the billet kit from ram and problem solved (BBK kit is the least expensive). I do get some chatter every now and then from the TO bearing, but as long as you don't hear any whinning when you depress the pedal (when the car is off) it should be fine. I did notice today when I downshifted into third and try to gun it nothing happend I was wondering if I missed the gear or did it slip? I didn't grind the gear, it felt like it engaged but the car didn't go. Never had this happen, I was wondering if anyone had any insight????

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