quadrant on a 79?

[turbostang79]

(I did a search, nothing came up )

Last week I ordered a new engine to replace the old tired 302 in my '79 stang. WOOT !!! (M-6007-XE3M)
In meanwhile, I was thinking about changing some other parts too.

There's a T5 laying around somewhere in the garage that comes from a 2.3 that once was installed in my car ...
I'm tired of the slipping C4 so I feel a mod comeing up!

So far I've already ordered a clutch, T5 bellhousing, clutch fork and I know where to get the right pilot bearing for the smaller 4 banger input shaft. (e.g. Timken 202ff)
(not too bad, considering I live in a country where a Mustang is an exlusive car)

But I guess I forgot to figure out how to link the clutch cable on the new bellhousing. The old cable won't fit anymore, and if I get a new cable it won't fit the old pedal assembly
It needs a quadrant or something ... If I look on sites like Jegs and others, they mention that those quadrants will fit the 79 pedal assembly, are they right? Anybody ever done this?

I called some shops but nobody seems to be sure about the quadrant fitting the 79 pedal assembly, or an other solution besides ordering a new pedal assembly.

euuhm, ..... help ?

 

[Daggar]

Get an OEM cable for a 95 or get a complete kit from Maximum Motor Sports. The 95 cable (as I've recently discovered) fit's the Fox bodies as well as it's intended years and allows routing around all sorts of silly things (like steering and exhaust). The only portion of the cable worth looking at for 'fitment' is the clutch fork portion. So long as yo're using a T-5 and T-5 bellhousing, then it will fit.

 

[turbostang79]

I guess you're refering to your 86, that came stock with a plastic quadrant?
The 79 model only has the small bar (that can be removed) with a pin where the cable attaches on.

Maybe a quadrant will just bolt on instead?
Or are there other parts needed to be able to use the quadrant?


here's a pic of the pedal assembly :

thanks,

Phil

 

[darthcual]

I would not recomend using that t-5 from the four cylinder. u may have the input shaft problem fixed, however, the input shaft on the four banger is longer and will cause undo stress on the crank. You have been warned.

DC

 

[turbostang79]

Myeah, some people say it will work, others say it won't ...



I'll try my luck and see how it goes
If the tranny breaks I can always get another one, but I have one laying around, why let it waste away?

Besides, I didn't post this to start discussing about the do's and don't's of the 4cyl T5, I just want to find a solution for the quadrant.
(even when I get a T5 from a V8, the issue remains the same)

Thanks though for your opinion, but I'm convinced I can make it work



Phil

 

[89MustangGX]

The pedal assembly looks very similar to a later model one -- except the clutch bracketry. I would think you could either try and swap the parts into that one or just obtain a later-model assembly and swap it in. I don't see how you would attach a cable like you need otherwise.

 

[turbostang79]

Maybe I should just order the quadrant and give it a try.
As you mentioned, if it doens't work I'll start looking for another pedal assembly.
I noticed in the Haynes manual that the stock quadrant needs a spring > I'm going to order an aluminium one, do they also need a spring?

It's not very clear to me why the quadrant would need a spring, as normally it always moves in the same direction?

 

[89MustangGX]

I don't see an aftermarket quadrant working in that setup. The aftermarket pieces have two mounting points -- which your pedal assembly doesn't have. I don't think it will stay on there or function right with that setup.

The spring is for the factory plastic adjuster -- it gets removed when you put an aftermarket one on.

 

[Hissing Cobra]

Mustang GX is right. The quadrant will not work in that '79 pedal assembly. I know because I tried it too! LOL! Eventually I came to the realization that I needed something newer so I went to the junkyard, found an '89 four-banger LX that was missing the entire interior (including dash) and unbolted an entire pedal assembly. It literally took me 5 minutes to get it out and the cost was only $10.00.

I took it home and it was a direct bolt in. I then was able to attach my Steeda quadrant, cable and firewall adjuster. It's now a year later and all is well.

By the way, when I installed my quadrant, it would slide left to right on the shaft. I bought some plastic spacers from the hardware store and was able to resize them (with my grinder) so that the quadrant lined up directly with the hole in the firewall. It's now tight and won't shift from left to right.

Good luck!

 

[89MustangGX]

Here's a picture I found that will hopefully better illustrate the differences. This still has the two-part plastic quadrant on it, but you can see the mount points.

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