I am getting my turndowns put on tuesday, but I want to keep my side pipes incase I want them again. BUT I have them made so I could take thjem off easily. I had the muffler shop cut the part that bolts up behind the cats and weld it onto the side pipes. I want to do the same thing with my turn downs, but the muffler shop said that they dont know where to get those and its probably a deal item. I dont see how something like that could be a dealer item? And i dont want to have to cut them off my side pipes, but i guess I will if I have to.