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I have a 98Gt stock at the flywheel they have 225hp.

Now, I hopefully am getting PI heads soon, and after I get those before they get installed I am going to get Crower Stage 2 N/A cams, and aftermarket intake. I already have Flowmaster Cat backs, UD Pullies, and Cold Air intake. Is it crazy to expect somewhere in the neighborhood of 350 crank hp after I do all of this? I hear the PI swap gives you like almost 60hp because it ups the compression too. The cams on a PI engine give you in the neighborhood of 45hp (MM&FF), and what does everything else give me.

So 350hp or no?
 

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The PI heads will raise your compression a tad because they arent dished. You can probably assume 3-5hp more than a 99+. However, that doesnt hold true if you have a high mileage/tired engine anyways. Secondly, depending on those cams, you might need to swap in dished pistons to accommodate the increase in lift/duration. Seeing 45hp through cams with pullies, muffler and an intake is a bit high. If you add the heads, those cams and dish the pistons, id guess your car would put down 260-270 rwhp at best
 

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not gonna happen!!

350 @ the crank is close to 300@ the wheels.......better get some spray!
 

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350hp at the crank is a tall order for a N/A 4.6, 300hp at the crank is close to where you will be
 
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SaleenGT2001 said:
not gonna happen!!

350 @ the crank is close to 300@ the wheels.......better get some spray!
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I was looking at your cardomain for your mods, and then I saw this in the comments section:

"Posted by: ONESIK95

05/18/2007, 02:01am

Very nice looking keep me updated. Come check out our 1995 GSX 2.3 Stroker 587.39 HP @ 24psi on race gas. Also check out our 1992 GS-T Pro Touring Racecar. Vote and give us feedback on what you think in our guestbook. Thanks again and keep up the good work!!!

~Road/Race Engineering"

587.39 HP at 24 PSI on RACE GAS, then just to make sure I came back here and checked out your hp / tq #'s ... good stuff
 
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Dang this modular engine stuff is depressing I just want a fast street car.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/mmfp_0703_ford_engine_performance/index.html

These guys got 50hp out of those cams and I don't know how they did it. I'd like to be at atleast 325 crank hp. Dang.
 

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it's a magazine, they get paid to inflate numbers so the product sells more. if you were FI you can easily pick up 50 rwhp from cams
 

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Mods in my sig net the HP/TQ in my sig. You might see some gains over mine with more aggressive mods but 110 HP is a long way.
 

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RedFox5.0 said:
Dang this modular engine stuff is depressing I just want a fast street car.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/mmfp_0703_ford_engine_performance/index.html

These guys got 50hp out of those cams and I don't know how they did it. I'd like to be at atleast 325 crank hp. Dang.
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They also got 20HP from the Plasma Booster.

If we all installed everything MM&FF tested over the years, we would all have 450hp race cars.
 
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